2016 Miami Dolphins: Amazing Gase

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I know the Dolphin beat writers are very negative and jaded in general, but has anyone read anything positive to come out of camp? The offense has been at best inept. Tannehill apparently can only complete 5 yard patterns to Landry. The oline is a sieve. And the CBs look bad despite this. Gase and the two coordinators have not hidden their disappointment in the play to date. What gives? It's possible this could be worst team in the league?
 

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1) Tannehill improves into a top 15 QB
Isn't that a worst case scenario? You'd almost rather have a nothing QB, draft higher, and know you need to sign/draft/improve there than have a vaguely passable but mediocre option who makes you you sit around for years hoping in vain that he can get you over the top.
 

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Isn't that a worst case scenario? You'd almost rather have a nothing QB, draft higher, and know you need to sign/draft/improve there than have a vaguely passable but mediocre option who makes you you sit around for years hoping in vain that he can get you over the top.
This is the cycle of mediocrity that keeps a lot of teams from taking that next step.

Tannehill as it stands right now is TOO good to just cut loose and completely start over. Miami isn't going to draft a guy in the middle or end of the first round that will immediately be better than him (that's how you get Chad Henne), and they aren't going to sign a guy in the mold of a Fitzpatrick that will play better than him. He's better than every quarterback they've had in the last decade not named Pennington.

You can laugh and say that's a pretty low bar, but Pennington is the most accurate QB in NFL history and got MVP votes for the season where he lead Miami to the playoffs. Miami went 11-5 after going 1-15 the previous season.

Tannehill is also not good enough to carry a team to a win. He doesn't elevate an offense and make the players around him better. His pocket presence is non-existent.

Bottom line is Tannehill has too much upside to completely start over. Even if they got the #1 or #2 pick, there are no guarantees that you don't get a lemon like an RG3. The best case scenario for all Miami fans is that Gase can elevate Tannehill to the next level. He doesn't have to be a top 3 QB for Miami to win. He really just needs more consistency. He's thrown for over 4,000 yards twice and his second season he threw for 3900. He's not BAD. He's just not great. A few incremental improvements could go a long way.
 

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If Penningtons arm didn't fall off his body, he could have been a good qb. Good enough to win you a SB, anyway.
 

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Isn't that a worst case scenario? You'd almost rather have a nothing QB, draft higher, and know you need to sign/draft/improve there than have a vaguely passable but mediocre option who makes you you sit around for years hoping in vain that he can get you over the top.
I think top 15 gets you in range where maybe the QB isn't pushing you to a championship, but you can be good enough to win with him. Eli and Flacco are what, 10-15 guys? Obviously if you have a historical-type D you can win with just about anybody, but that's tough to bank on. I think the Giants / '13 Ravens "get in the playoffs and hope to get hot" model is workable

The problem is that Tannehill's already pretty expensive - it won't be that easy to build a championship roster around him with his cap hit.
 

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I think top 15 gets you in range where maybe the QB isn't pushing you to a championship, but you can be good enough to win with him. Eli and Flacco are what, 10-15 guys? Obviously if you have a historical-type D you can win with just about anybody, but that's tough to bank on. I think the Giants / '13 Ravens "get in the playoffs and hope to get hot" model is workable

The problem is that Tannehill's already pretty expensive - it won't be that easy to build a championship roster around him with his cap hit.
Tannehill is in what I would consider to be a league average contract for a QB. He's making around the same money as Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, and most other QBs that have gotten a second contract recently. In fact, many praised Miami for locking up Tannehill at what seemed to be a below-market rate.

The problem is Suh's contract. They're paying him huge dollars and if he isn't completely changing the game from the defensive side of the ball, he's under performing to his contract. He needs to have a JJ Watt kind of impact, and they just didn't see that in his first year in Miami.
 

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Tannehill is in what I would consider to be a league average contract for a QB. He's making around the same money as Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, and most other QBs that have gotten a second contract recently. In fact, many praised Miami for locking up Tannehill at what seemed to be a below-market rate.
I agree and I disagree. Tannehill's contract is averageish, but it's still a lot of money. The QB salaries are pretty flat - Tannehill has the 13th-highest average at $19.25 / year, but the #2 highest, Flacco, is $22.1 MM / year - only like 15% higher. That makes guys like Rodgers ($22 MM), Wilson ($21.9), Roethlisberger ($21.8 MM), Newton ($20.8 MM), Brady ($20.5 MM), and Brees ($20 MM) relative bargains. You're competing with that - it's hard to imagine spending the $1-3 MM you save with Tannehill somewhere else on your roster and getting that kind of bang for your buck. If you were getting Tannehill-esque performance on a rookie salary, that's a different story, obviously.

The problem is Suh's contract. They're paying him huge dollars and if he isn't completely changing the game from the defensive side of the ball, he's under performing to his contract. He needs to have a JJ Watt kind of impact, and they just didn't see that in his first year in Miami.
Agreed 100%. That's why I dislike these superstar megadeals - there's almost no upside. Best case scenario, Suh is one of the best defenders in the league and he's worth what they're paying him. If he's merely very good, like last year, they're not getting their money's worth. There's almost no chance for surplus value on the deal.
 

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This is the cycle of mediocrity that keeps a lot of teams from taking that next step.
This doesn't happen in the NFL, but what if the Dolphins looked to trade Tannehill and basically throw away the season? I know NFL coaches/GM's windows are too short and they are expected to win or GTFO.

I could see some other teams probably giving up a fairly nice draft pick for him maybe a first and you use that to target a QB in the draft. The dangers of missing the pick exist and are high. But if you really believe that Tannehill is never going to take that next step leaving the team just bad enough to miss the playoffs but too good to get a high draft pick, why not take a risk instead of perpetuating the "cycle of mediocrity".

Tannehill is just the example here, but middle of the road teams should really consider accepting a year or two of sucking instead of moving along with a QB that at best is going to not get in the way of a playoff run.
 

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This doesn't happen in the NFL, but what if the Dolphins looked to trade Tannehill and basically throw away the season? I know NFL coaches/GM's windows are too short and they are expected to win or GTFO.

I could see some other teams probably giving up a fairly nice draft pick for him maybe a first and you use that to target a QB in the draft. The dangers of missing the pick exist and are high. But if you really believe that Tannehill is never going to take that next step leaving the team just bad enough to miss the playoffs but too good to get a high draft pick, why not take a risk instead of perpetuating the "cycle of mediocrity".

Tannehill is just the example here, but middle of the road teams should really consider accepting a year or two of sucking instead of moving along with a QB that at best is going to not get in the way of a playoff run.
I think it's the fear of the unknown. Like I said, there are no guarantees that you hit on a QB in the draft. In recent memory, I would say the only QBs drafted that are better than Tannehill are Wilson and Luck and I think Wilson gets a huge assist from a dominant defense and running game.

If you cut bait on Tannehill, you're putting yourself in a huge hole if the QB you sign isn't a clear upgrade. Could Deshaun Watson eventually become better than Tannehill? Possibly, but you'll have to suffer through a full season of sucking this year and probably an additional season or two of bad to mediocre football until that pays any dividends.

If Tannehill blossoms under Gase, Miami could possibly contend for a wild card spot this year. I would much rather give Gase a chance to work his magic with this group of players before giving up on Tannehill and entering the circle of suck for another few years.
 

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I think it's the fear of the unknown. Like I said, there are no guarantees that you hit on a QB in the draft. In recent memory, I would say the only QBs drafted that are better than Tannehill are Wilson and Luck and I think Wilson gets a huge assist from a dominant defense and running game.

If you cut bait on Tannehill, you're putting yourself in a huge hole if the QB you sign isn't a clear upgrade. Could Deshaun Watson eventually become better than Tannehill? Possibly, but you'll have to suffer through a full season of sucking this year and probably an additional season or two of bad to mediocre football until that pays any dividends.

If Tannehill blossoms under Gase, Miami could possibly contend for a wild card spot this year. I would much rather give Gase a chance to work his magic with this group of players before giving up on Tannehill and entering the circle of suck for another few years.
LOLOLOL

Convince me this isn't one of the two or three worst teams in the NFL. cut bait? huge hole? They are staring at the abyss already. The new coach, new system looking at starting season 1-3 or 0-4? then they'll quit. This team does nothing well. They can't block, can't tackle, can't cover, can't run and can't throw the ball downfield. And they are relatively old.

The mediocre Cowboys dominated them on both sides of the ball. And Tannehill still can't audible to a better play or blocking scheme, he still doesn't see the field fast enough and he isn't accurate. But he's a tough kid, I'll give him that. he gets hit every time he drops back. But everything you read about practices is same that you see in games. You worry about sucking the next couple years with a new QB? Dak Prescott is already better than Tannehill...just find the right QB

legit chance at 3-13 or 2-14 this year, new system or not, Gase has really stepped in poop with this team.
 

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Convince me this isn't one of the two or three worst teams in the NFL. cut bait? huge hole? They are staring at the abyss already. The new coach, new system looking at starting season 1-3 or 0-4? then they'll quit. This team does nothing well. They can't block, can't tackle, can't cover, can't run and can't throw the ball downfield. And they are relatively old.

The mediocre Cowboys dominated them on both sides of the ball. And Tannehill still can't audible to a better play or blocking scheme, he still doesn't see the field fast enough and he isn't accurate. But he's a tough kid, I'll give him that. he gets hit every time he drops back. But everything you read about practices is same that you see in games. You worry about sucking the next couple years with a new QB? Dak Prescott is already better than Tannehill...just find the right QB

legit chance at 3-13 or 2-14 this year, new system or not, Gase has really stepped in poop with this team.
Your aqua fever has driven you delirious.

This is a 6+ win team with the ability to push 9 wins if health breaks right for them.

- The Dolphins front 4 could be a top 5 defensive line (barring Wakes health).

- This is probably the best offensive line Tannehill's had to work with (tallest midget, but still...)

- Probably the best receiving unit Tannehill has had to work with (I like Parker to look much better this year).

- Ajayi should be able to mostly replace Miller's production.

- I really like Gase.

Now, the Dolphins back 7 is a mess and if Tannehill doesn't step up, none of this matters. All of these positives still only add up to 7-9 wins, but this team certainly is better than the 3-13 nightmare you're predicting. Which, as pointed out, may is worse for your teams drafting future.
 

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The front four sucks. Williams is toast. He is worthless at this point. Wake is a situational pass rusher at best. He can't set the edge anymore. Suh? He will be the first to mail it in and Phillips has not shown ability to unseat fossil Mitchell. All this talk about front four people forget how bad they were last year. And the back 7? Oh boy. Add to that reshad got paid so expect a drop in performance. The other safety spot will improve. Lippett? Maxwell? McCain? Teams will throw for 400 yards against this team regularly if need be.

The only hope for improvement is if the oline goes from horrible to average and Gase is a whisperer. Looks like they'll move Tannehill around more which is good but the line got dominated in two preseason games and daily by that same crap dline. They can't run the ball at all. And Gase wants to run it a lot. That's why I think they end up with bushrod and turner at guard. Tunsil is a finesse tackle trying to play guard. In a team that wants to be run first, ball control, short passing game. Makes no sense.

They won six games last year. New coach. First four games are brutal. At Seattle, at NE, at Cincy. Home to Cleveland third. Then four straight at home when they are likely 1-3. They HAVE win week 5 vs Tennessee or wheels completely fall off. Pittsburgh, jets and buffalo.

I just don't see it.
 

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So if you throw away the first drive of the game, I was actually pretty impressed with the offense.

The drops in the end zone were largely inexcusable. Cameron had a slant hit him square in both hands and dropped it. Landry dropped 2 TDs, although his weren't as awful as Cameron. Parker dropped a TD that was in traffic, but you expect a first rounder to make that catch.

The defense was awful in almost every regard. Huge holes in the run game and the pass rush was non existent.
 

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I can't recall ever seeing Tannehill look better than he did last night.
I know some of it was against 2nd stringers, but I don't think it matters because it was the ball placement (especially in the Red Zone) that was so impressive.
Those throws last night were what you'd expect to see from a proverbial "Elite" QB.

Too bad virtually everything else was shit. And when it comes to the O-Line and Defense it's the same old shit which makes it all the more frustrating.
Most disappointing was the lack of awareness and discipline on the Defensive side. Virtually every play I was rewinding and saying "WTF" are they doing in regards to someone on that side. Not seting the edge. Missed tackles. Obliviously running by ball carriers...You name it. Frustrating to see.
 

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The front four sucks. Williams is toast. He is worthless at this point. Wake is a situational pass rusher at best. He can't set the edge anymore. Suh? He will be the first to mail it in and Phillips has not shown ability to unseat fossil Mitchell. All this talk about front four people forget how bad they were last year. And the back 7? Oh boy. Add to that reshad got paid so expect a drop in performance. The other safety spot will improve. Lippett? Maxwell? McCain? Teams will throw for 400 yards against this team regularly if need be.

The only hope for improvement is if the oline goes from horrible to average and Gase is a whisperer. Looks like they'll move Tannehill around more which is good but the line got dominated in two preseason games and daily by that same crap dline. They can't run the ball at all. And Gase wants to run it a lot. That's why I think they end up with bushrod and turner at guard. Tunsil is a finesse tackle trying to play guard. In a team that wants to be run first, ball control, short passing game. Makes no sense.

They won six games last year. New coach. First four games are brutal. At Seattle, at NE, at Cincy. Home to Cleveland third. Then four straight at home when they are likely 1-3. They HAVE win week 5 vs Tennessee or wheels completely fall off. Pittsburgh, jets and buffalo.

I just don't see it.
I understand your frustration and it's tough sometimes being a fan.

All I can say is with nothing to play for the last game of the year last year and with New England having everything to play for, Miami knocked them off and torpedo's their chances for a fifth Super Bowl win as you, me and my cat all knew they had no shot having to go to Denver for the AFCCG, if that game was in Foxboro, different story.

So there is something there, it's up to the coaching staff to find it and build on it.

All I know is almost every game for New England in Miami is a dogfight; good luck this year and in closing, as a long time Patriots fan who sat through some pretty bad seasons prior to 2001, hang in there.
 

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The throw to Stills on the run was absolute perfection. Hit him perfectly in stride in the run 40 yards downfield. His dime to Stills in his last TD was sublime. Perfect arc over the DB into the corner to hit Stills. Two "elite" throws.
 

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http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/08/24/miami-dolphins-rookie-ot-laremy-tunsil-90-snaps-zero-qb-pressures/

Miami Dolphins rookie offensive guard Laremy Tunsil has yet to allow a single quarterback pressure in 90 preseason snaps, according to Pro Football Focus, a web site that analyzes each snap and issues grades.
According to PFF, “Tunsil’s first action (against the Giants) was not good, but he was far better when surrounded by the starters against the Cowboys.”
“I think he did a pretty good job,” Gase said. “We had a few things that we have to clean up with him. When you look at him, pass (protection) is not going to be something that’s he really going to really have an issue with. It’s just sometimes in the run game when you’re in different parts of the field, there’s different angles you have to take, sometimes you have to come off quicker on some of the double teams.”
 

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This just in: guy that was maybe the best player in the draft is pretty good.

For real though, Tunsil is going to start at LG this year. There's basically zero question and there never was. He needs to get better at run blocking and getting to the second level, but that will come as he acclimates. The dude is a thoroughbred stud.

I'm still not 100% convinced that the best offensive line isn't Tunsil at LT and Albert at LG, but either way, he's going to be a huge improvement over the Dallas Thomas Turnstyle and is a great insurance plan in case Albert suffers an injury.
 
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Tonight's game will be on NBC. Being the third preseason game, we should see the starters for a full half plus maybe a series or two into the third quarter.

Things I want to see:

Can Miami stop Atlanta's offense at all? The Cowboys carved them up like room-temp butter, but the Cowboys also have the best offensive line in football and may be an offensive juggernaut this year. Atlanta has a good, not great, offense on paper with Freeman at RB, Julio Jones and Matt Ryan. This will be a good test for Miami's D. If the Falcons carve them up like Dallas did, I'll officially be worried.

Keep the first team offense rolling.
Apart from the first series, Miami's offense was rolling in the last game. They've done a lot of red zone work this week in practice, hopefully they cash in a few more of those tickets this week. Will Stills continue his resurgence into Kenny Stills from NO? Will Parker show up and start to make an impact? I'd like to see a better showing from the run game as well. Foster and Ajayi will see the bulk of the work, but Gase said he'd like to get Pead a few snaps with the 1's as well.

No major injuries, please. Pouncey is already in question for Week 1 with a hip injury. It could be worse, but Miami can't afford to lose a major cog for multiple weeks. Especially on defense. They are paper thin in the back 7.
 

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Great list. I'll be paying a lot of attention to the offensive line, per usual. I think the inability to do anything on the ground last week was almost entirely due to the lack of push from the 5 up front. I'm also curious to see Pead get some run with the 1's. Outside of Foster, he might be Miami's most complete back. He doesn't have the interior running gusto of Ajayi, but he's got some pop; and he's also able to contribute in the passing game, unlike the sophomore. We could be looking at a late-bloomer; someone who was drafted in the second round and a lot of hype just 3-4 years ago. I like him better than Williams.

While I wasn't happy with Miami's defensive line vs. Dallas, I'm most concerned with our LB/CB group right now, in that order. Alonso, Misi, and Jenkins have been awful this far with getting off blocks and making plays. The tackling has been abysmal, and the coverage hasn't been much better. It doesn't look like VJ is showing much defensively at the moment, but I'm looking to see a better group effort tonight.

Lastly, I'd like to see Jordan Cameron make a dang play. Just. Catch. The. Ball.
 

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He doesn't have the interior running gusto of Ajayi, but he's got some pop; and he's also able to contribute in the passing game, unlike the sophomore.
One of the things that's still a mystery to me is where the hell did the receiving prowess of Jay Ajayi go? Coming out of Boise he was the first back to ever go 1800+ rushing yards and 500+ receiving yards. His ability to catch the ball out of the backfield was supposed to be a big strength of his. Maybe its just been a lack of opportunity, but I really expected him catching balls out of the backfield to be a bigger part of his game.

It seems he's mostly brought in there to hammer the ball in between the tackles. Maybe Gase will make better use of his skill set. Add that to the list of things I'm interested in seeing.
 

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You guys always do a nice job of encapsulating the finer points before and after games. No question, last week's game was a real slap in the face. I went from being cautiously optimistic that they could finish above .500 and maybe compete for a wild card--knowing that the O-line and secondary would be their Achilles heel(s)--to realizing that these things are fatal flaws, and now find myself at near-Clears levels of despair. Pre-season is pre-season, but my god that showing by the defense was shocking.

Tonight will be one of the more interesting game threes of the preseason in recent memory. I get the feeling that the team recognizes that there is sense of urgency, if not desperation, to show they're progressing under the new regime. Along with all the things you guys mentioned, I'll be interested in seeing any adjustments by the coaching staff and how hard and how long they keep the pedal pressed. And will the defense show up to play at all? If the D puts in a respectable showing, I can at least delude myself 'til opening day that last week was just a case of the exhibition doldrums rather than a true glimpse of what we should expect this year.
 

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It's not despair, it's disgust. This franchise has been relevant once in the last, what, 20 years? And that was due to a gimmick offense that the league figured out after about 10 weeks. And that's not because of the Pats. They have been awful on their own.

Tunsil is not a guard. He is not a great run blocker. He's an elite pass protector. Playing guard. On a team that wants to run as much as they pass. I think Foster can be great but I'm not sure this line can run block for him. I don't think ajayi is anything special. He's JAG.

I hope Tannehill can become good. And Gase can fix him. But I think the upside is that Gase will put him in best positions to succeed more than Tannehill has ever experienced. The downside is that those positions are limited in scope because the QB is not accurate, has poor pocket presence and can't read defenses.

The defense is not really fixable. There is nothing good about it.

I agree we should see a team desperate to play well tonight. What if they don't? Julio gonna be open every play. Lol.
 

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It's not despair, it's disgust. This franchise has been relevant once in the last, what, 20 years? And that was due to a gimmick offense that the league figured out after about 10 weeks. And that's not because of the Pats. They have been awful on their own.
I feel you, man. We all do. During the late 90's as Marino's career waned, a sense of dread descended slowly and ominously over Dolphin Nation as the reality of a team without him set in. But I don't think the most pessimistic among us ever anticipated this level of mediocrity-at-best for this long. And yet we cling....

What sucks is that even if Tanny & this WR corps can reach their ceiling and lead this team into the top 10 in offense (yeah, with this OL, I know it's a pipe dream), there is nothing suggesting we have a defense that wouldn't give up 26+ points per game for our 25. And that is disgusting.
 

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They certianly look a lot better tonight (thanks to Foster and a dropped INT) and them moving RT out of the pocket more.

but the cloud...suh was helped back to the locker room, he couldn't walk under his own power
 

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Suh's situation is concerning. Good to see them flying to the ball more on D and actually tackling. The offense looks solid--and, although to my eyes Tanny still seems to lock in on his first target too much, he's made some pretty good quick decisions under pressure.

Edit: A few drops by receivers already. That's maddening.
 

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This looks like the Marino dolphins....can't run, pass blocking good. Except Tannehill takes about 3x as long to get rid of the ball. foster looks good, as did Pead. Where is Parker?? HE's disappeared most of camp and the preseason. Stills is clearly the #2 receiver behind Landry.

the D looked better? I guess, but Lippett is a disaster. They have to pick up one or two CBs off waivers. tackling was better for sure and dline was not a sieve against the run. not great but made a couple plays to get off the field
 

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The run D looked much improved while the starters were out there. Suh was announcing his presence with authority. The stop on 4th and 1 was something I did not see coming. Not worried about Suh for Week 1. He'll have two weeks to rest up and it didn't seem too serious to me. The Falcons actually ran the ball very effectively the prior two weeks, so that gives me a real sense of optimism.

Boy, outside of Jones and Maxwell, the secondary is bad. Everyone needs to keep their fingers crossed that Xavien Howard is a very quick learner and he has no setbacks. Tony Lippett does not belong on the field as a starting DB right now. Jones had the red zone pick and still looks every bit as good as he did last year, which Miami will desperately need.

The offense looked pretty good again. The pick on Tannehill was a fluky tipped pass. I throw that out the window. Arian Foster showed he still has something left in the tank. He caught the ball extremely well out of the backfield, and his TD run was vintage Foster, making a silky cut into the end zone. I wouldn't say that the rushing attack was great, but they ran the ball effectively at times and seemed to be able to pass the ball up and down the field.

Jordan Cameron: spend some time with the juggs machine the next two weeks.
 

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Almost forgot, shout out to the offensive line. They kept Tannehill clean for most of the game. James in particular stood out to me. He was handling Vic Beasley with what looked like ease to me. Good to see him back and healthy. I think I kind of forgot how good he can be if he's 100%.

Also, congrats to Anthony Steen. If you hadn't already, you earned your spot on the roster last night. He filled in well for Pouncey, with only one errant snap. I don't want to have flashbacks of Jamil Douglas snapping the ball all over the field.

For once, it looks like Miami has some real quality depth on the line. If one guy goes down, the line won't implode like in years past.
 

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I agree with everything you said. But I don't see this team having any sort of success running the ball in a traditional manner. They have four tackles and a center along the line. None are second level maulers. I think Tannehill may be throwing it 50x per game because that is likely what they'll do best. Not sure that's what Gase wants, tho. And I'm guessing we will all be driven nutty on third and short again this year.

Lippett is still a project. I guarantee they pick up a FA CB in the next 10 days. Maybe 2
 

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I agree with everything you said. But I don't see this team having any sort of success running the ball in a traditional manner. They have four tackles and a center along the line. None are second level maulers. I think Tannehill may be throwing it 50x per game because that is likely what they'll do best. Not sure that's what Gase wants, tho. And I'm guessing we will all be driven nutty on third and short again this year.

Lippett is still a project. I guarantee they pick up a FA CB in the next 10 days. Maybe 2
I think that's one of the reasons I'm pulling for Billy Turner to win out at RG. He's not as adept at pass protection, but I think he's a very good run blocker. Between him and Pouncey you would have two very good, athletic run blockers inside. I think Tunsil will improve throughout the year as he gets more reps at guard. He's already a huge improvement in pass protection.
 

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I think that's our 5 to open the season (unless Pouncey can't play, of course), with the emphasis on keeping Tannehill protected. Gase was pretty balanced with Chicago last year, but I see him using our backs and screens/short passing to simulate a running game, if necessary. Foster, Drake, Grant, Landry, Parker -- there's a lot to play with creatively. I'm hoping Bushrod improves as the season progresses, and "we" become at least average running the football.

I'm still a Turner fan, though, and I'm surprised that it seems as though Thomas is ahead of him on the depth chart. I swear, Dallas is like a bought of nasty toe nail fungus -- he just won't go away. Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me to see Turner get his shot eventually at RG this season, either due to a player performance issue (Bushrod/Dallas) or injury. Bushrod hasn't been the most durable.

Looking back on this off-season, I really wish Miami would have opened the wallet for Sean Smith. It's been reported that he wanted to come back to Miami, too. He fits VJ's CB mold perfectly. Instead, we have to hope that Xavien is ready for prime time, or can at least keep his head above water, until Culliver can get back. And it's not like he doesn't come with a ton of risk, either.
 

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Checking Twitter, it sounds like Howard has been flashing what everyone saw during OTAs. Obviously playing DB as a rookie is one of the toughest assignments in the NFL. Many first rounders flop on their face. Howard seems to have a confidence about him and the coaching staff seems to believe in him. Going back to the draft, it seems like Vance Joseph hand picked him.

I'm not saying he's going to be a Pro Bowler this year, but I feel a lot better going into Seattle if he's on the field instead of Tony Lippett or Bobby McCain outside.
 
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ITP did a really good breakdown of the James v Beasley matchup from last week's preseason game. While largely focusing on the ineffectiveness of Beasley, it does highlight how well James handled him all night.

http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/teams-nfl/nfc-south/atlanta-falcons/2016/08/29/vic-beasley-spins-out-against-jawuan-james/

I think James is kind of the forgotten man on the OLine. If he stays healthy this year, he's a very good RT, and a huge upgrade over Jason Fox/Dallas Thomas/whoever else had a pulse that they threw in at RT once James got hurt.
 

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Final preseason game tonight. I think the number one story is the rookies.

Tunsil should start and play a fair amount in the first half. I think Gase wants to get him as many reps as possible without putting him at risk. Xavien Howard will finally be on the field. I expect he plays most of the first half, maybe into the third quarter. Getting him reps out there against another team is critical to him being ready for Week 1. Kenyan Drake should also see the field for the first time. Curious to see how Gase uses him. I'm sure he'll carry the ball, but I would expect they'd like to get him a few passes as well. Also be interested to see if he returns any punts or kicks. That's kind of been Jakeem Grant's job thus far, but Drake is a good returner in his own right.

The RG spot is one of the few undecided spots still. I would guess that both Bushrod and Turner get some reps there as they try and nail down who starts Week 1. It looks more and more like it's going to be Bushrod, but I think the door is still open for Turner if he has a good showing.

Please no major injuries. As of right now, it looks like Miami has been somewhat fortunate on that front, with Pouncey and Jelani Jenkins both possibly missing Week 1, but not much worse than that. Make it out of the game with relative health and get ready to go to Seattle.
 

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It's been a busy week for me -- what sucks more than moving? -- so thanks for all the updates. I'm excited to see Xavien finally get some live game action. From the coaches to the media ... everyone's raving about the guy's ability. Here's hoping he plays relatively well and doesn't suffer any setbacks with the knee.

I keep thinking of all the ways (or things that have to happen) for the Fins to be a surprise playoff team this year, and their schedule continues to be a major road block, in my opinion. From the tough road start and end and the competitive division, there just won't be many easy wins.

But despite the that, I think the offense needs to start fast and the defense needs to improve continuously as the season goes on. If the offensive can put up points, that'll give Miami's young defense time to adjust and get better. Additionally, Culliver will join the group ... and who knows, maybe there's even a role for Dion Jordan.

I'm curious to see who the final round of NFL cuts. I could see the Dolphins adding a LB, CB, and TE.
 

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It's been a busy week for me -- what sucks more than moving? -- so thanks for all the updates. I'm excited to see Xavien finally get some live game action. From the coaches to the media ... everyone's raving about the guy's ability. Here's hoping he plays relatively well and doesn't suffer any setbacks with the knee.

I keep thinking of all the ways (or things that have to happen) for the Fins to be a surprise playoff team this year, and their schedule continues to be a major road block, in my opinion. From the tough road start and end and the competitive division, there just won't be many easy wins.

But despite the that, I think the offense needs to start fast and the defense needs to improve continuously as the season goes on. If the offensive can put up points, that'll give Miami's young defense time to adjust and get better. Additionally, Culliver will join the group ... and who knows, maybe there's even a role for Dion Jordan.

I'm curious to see who the final round of NFL cuts. I could see the Dolphins adding a LB, CB, and TE.
There's really only one thing that needs to happen: be more competitive in the division. During the Tannehill era, the Dolphins have been destroyed by their AFC East foes. Its not just NE either, a place where (predictably) the team hasn't won (0-4). Buffalo has been a house of horrors for the organization traditionally, and that's not something they've been able to change in recent history (0-4). Even the Jets, who they've handled in the Meadowlands (3-1) has been a thorn in their side at home (0-3, 0-4 if you want to include last year's 'home' game).

Until they're able to flip this script, nothing else is going to matter. This team needs to be tougher.
 

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So I think that Howard and Drake showed well. Neither was amazing, but Howard in particular looked pretty good and it was good for them both to see some live bullets before the games count for real next week.

No major injuries to any key starters is always a big plus and really about all I can ask for.

Concerns heading into Seattle:

Controlling the run game/containing Russell Wilson
I think everyone knows the run game makes Seattle tick. A huge honus on the defense to stop the run and keep Russell Wilson in the pocket. On paper, Miami's D-Line vs Seattle's o-line should be a huge advantage for the Dolphins. I'm optimistic that the wide 9 formation will help keep Russell from escaping outside the pocket. It will be critical to have Suh and the linebackers make an impact and slow the running attack. I think this is the matchup that decides the game.

The offense vs Seattle's defense

Week 1 traveling to Seattle. Welcome to the NFL, Adam Gase. No two ways around it, I think Miami is going to struggle to put up points. From what I saw in the preseason, I don't see the run game being particularly effective. I think Miami will work a lot of stuff short to intermediate across the middle of the field and hope to keep the chains moving. Probably get the backs the ball out of the backfield and see if they can make plays in space in the passing game. I think Stills can be a mismatch in favor of Miami, but Thomas is so good, I can't imagine the Seahwaks getting beat deep on anything Miami throws at them. I think Landry against their nickel back/LBs is Miami's best matchup, but there are only so many 4-5 yard crossing patterns he can catch. I hope Gase has a couple of wrinkles up his sleeve.
 

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Came across an interesting random statistic while reading an article about the Sam Bradford trade to Minnesota:
Pro Football Focus

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QB Leaders - Accuracy % Under Pressure
1. Sam Bradford, PHI
2. Ryan Tannehill, MIA
3. Ryan Mallett, BAL

(min 40 preseason drop backs)
It surprised me to see Tannehill second on this list. I'm curious to see what some of you would attribute this to, considering his pocket awareness is so sketchy. Is it possible this type of instinctive lapse actually improves his ability to complete passes, since he literally doesn't feel the pressure of an oncoming rusher the way a typical QB would?
 

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Miami claims Justin Hunter off of waivers. He's someone I thought would be a great addition back in the Wallace/Hartline days. He now looks like a poor man's version of DeVante Parker.
 

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He might be Devonte Parker, sadly

Surprised no LBs or CBs

I think this team will be playing a lot of games in the 30s. They won't win many because of the inability to run and stop anything, but I see lots of 31-42 425 3td 1int games for RT.

Fantasy football dream. Matt Stafford in his prime. Riversesque. Etc

I finally threw in the towel and agreed to coach my kids travel soccer team knowing every game is on Sunday afternoon. So maybe I sold at the bottom and the Fish will be entertaining this year
 

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At this point it's looking like Parker, Pouncey, and Jenkins are going to be scratches for Seattle.

Seattle will be without Jimmy Graham, and Thomas Rawls will at least be limited, with Michael listed as the starter.
 

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Seattle's 1st round draft choice, RG Germain Ifedi, suffered a high ankle sprain during practice and will be out for the game against Miami.

On paper, Suh should have a monster game. Seattle's O-Line sucks, and they just lost their starter at RG. If the DEs can contain Wilson inside the pocket, Suh should be bringing pressure down the middle all game long.

Miami is a huge underdog on the road, but I really think the mismatch between their D-Line and Seattle's O-Line can help keep the game close.
 

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Tough loss, deserved better. Encouraging performance on a lot of levels though. Get Parker healthy, fire Kenny Stills into the sun.
 

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Fuck. So tough on so many levels.

On the plus, Miami basically played the hardest possible road game, and realistically could have should have won. They left ten points in the field. Against a team like Seattle on the road, you can't do that and expect to win.

They played so much better than almost anyone could have predicted. The running game was a real struggle, but the defense showed well, and the offense did enough against one of the best teams in the league on the road to win.

We're on to New England. Fuck you Jimmy, we're coming for you.
 

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Tough loss, deserved better. Encouraging performance on a lot of levels though. Get Parker healthy, fire Kenny Stills into the sun.
I guess. Tough to watch a defense that put together a very strong effort just melt away at the end. We've all seen that movie before. What galls me most is that the Dolphins should have been up 13 - 3 at the half. Bad decision to go for it in the first half, squandering a chance to get on the board, and then the inexcusable Stills drop. Also, the two Camerons had their own critical shit-the-bed moments.

Fun start to the season. At least the Jets & Bills lost.
 
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