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Mauricio Dubon hit his third homer today. He's been having an interesting season, seems to have taken a more aggressive approach in AA and has seen a huge spike in ISO. A player to watch closely.
 

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Mauricio Dubon hit his third homer today. He's been having an interesting season, seems to have taken a more aggressive approach in AA and has seen a huge spike in ISO. A player to watch closely.
SoxProspects guys believe his likely outcome is Marco Hernandez, which is a pretty valuable piece to have laying around for many teams. Given the scouting, the stats will have to continue to exceed expectations to be viewed as a future starter. High floor/low ceiling type of guy.
 

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Anyone know why Moncada hasn't played in about a week?

edit found out he is having some residual soreness in ankle, day to day.
 
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Those numbers just went up, it seems Dalbec just hit his 2nd homerun or the evening.

Edit:and here is the video

 

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“@salemredsox: Final line on Michael Kopech: 6 IP, 3 H, R, ER, 0 BB, 11 K. 93 pitches, 65 strikes.

He ties his career high in IP and K’s. #HappyKopechDay”

When do they move him up
A level?
 

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Probably not this season. Salem already has a playoff spot locked up and the Dogs are in last place. I think they want him to get as many games as possible.

Or maybe there is somewhere else he could pitch? :)
 

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Basabe had a 3 strikeout game last night, but even with that performance, his K rate since the second half is way down. He's a year older than Devers and lower in the system but he's having a 2nd half as good as Rafael.

1st half 52 games 214 PA .222/.293/.397 20bb 64k 9sb/0cs. 9.3%bb rate, 30% K rate.
2nd half 43 games 184PA .310/.372/.542 16bb 40k 13sb/4cs 8.7%bb rate, 21.7% K rate.

Devers for comparison
1st half 63 games 259 PA .233/.300/.335 23bb 42k 7sb/4cs 8.8%bb rate, 16.2% K rate
2nd half 50 games 224PA .330/.376/.579 15bb 42k 7sb/0cs 6.7%bb rate, 18.8% K rate

OPS by Month: .743, .498, .809, 1.032, .780. Still only 19. With Benintendi likely to graduate and Espinoza traded, Basabe has a good chance of sneak into the top 5 with a solid finish, behind Moncada, Devers, Groom, and Kopech.
 

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Dalbec with another home run(his 5th) along with a single tonight.
The word on him before the draft was he had great power but very poor contact skills. Contact hasn't been an issue so far in Lowell.
 

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He's been Youkillis-like promising in his MiLB career start, at least in terms of the very high OPS and third base position. But yeah, the high SO/low BB history scares me. How many of these type guys, even with a promising bat, ever really come around? I think most don't; e.g., Bryce Brentz
 

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His strike out rate isn't even that high? Plus the sample size is small. Not seeing the Youkilis example either other than they both play 3b.
 

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If he's really developed some power, all the other tools are there for Dubon to be an above average regular. He's younger and has hit for significantly more power in Portland than Marrero or Marco. In 206 PA, he is slashing .332/.365/.526. For the year, his lines are closer to Marrero and Marcos breakout seasons, .318/.378/.445.
 

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Moncada returned but had a tough night 0-5 with 4K's.
He needs a lot of work hitting from the right. Currently has over 50% K rate as a RHB. Admittedly SSS (17K in 30AB) but certainly something worth monitoring.
 

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Impressive debut! Also good to hear his behavior off the field has been model so far. Hope today was the beginning of a long and successful career with the Sox, and that we're still posting and raving about him on the main board 10 years from now!
 
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Chavis promoted to Salem, the hats good. Ewe given that he'd slumped in Greenville. They must be seeing adjustments that they like and want him to keep playing longer this season (Salem headed to the playoffs, right?)
 

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Chavis promoted to Salem, the hats good. Ewe given that he'd slumped in Greenville. They must be seeing adjustments that they like and want him to keep playing longer this season (Salem headed to the playoffs, right?)
That and he's already repeated the level so it's not like he's going to learn more in Greenville. His strikeout rate in the 2nd half is 30% (200pa, 60k, exactly). He's really looking like a bust, honestly.
 

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It's Kopech night
Watching from behind the plate. 1 infield hit through 4 innings. Nobody that I be seen has pulled the ball. Working in "off speed" pitches pretty liberally and getting strikes and swings and misses to go with weak contact. There's no gun here, but his fastball is really really loud when it hits the catchers mitt.

Chavis had a nice at bat for a walk where he took two close pitches, one a slider:curve something.

Devers with a 380 foot line drive for an out.
 

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Kopech coming out for the 7th. He started to struggle a bit with command in the 6th. This will be a good test.

Devers is all over the field at 3B. In little league we'd be calling him a bit of a ball hog. The only hit was when he cut off the shortstop way over in the shortstop's space.
 

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Just threw one all the way to the backstop. Then. came back with 2 unhittlanle fastballs for the K
 
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Devers is all over the field at 3B. In little league we'd be calling him a bit of a ball hog. The only hit was when he cut off the shortstop way over in the shortstop's space.
Some of the reporting on Devers that I'd read this year is that he not only hasn't outgrown 3B like was initially expected, but has actually been plus defensively at the position. Did what you saw match that?
 

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6ip, 1h, 2bb, 8k.

He's 2 years older than Anderson Espinoza but he has to be closing the gap.
Not unless he develops a third pitch and get's his slider above average. Right now he's a one pitch guy but that fastball is plus maybe (probably?) plus plus, which at these levels is unfair. He's throwing as hard as the very best majors relievers as a starter. Which is insane, but can anyone not worry about that arm holding up?
 

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Reports from last night were that he was throwing a lot of off-speed pitches and that his slider in particular is filthy. If he does have a plus slider that can be enough to succeed at the MLB level see Chris Archer.

From his pitching coach after last nights game:
"He can dominate with his fastball. It's got exceptional late life through the zone, but his slider has really picked up with his feel and conviction," Abbott said. "He's starting to learn how to use his slider as a wipeout pitch, and it's really coming along fast. It's just a true weapon, to give him something else to go to besides his fastball. He's got two devastating weapons."

Read more: http://forum.soxprospects.com/thread/3499/michael-kopech#ixzz4ILEStBMU
 

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Kopech has given up 3 or fewer hits in 7 of his 10 starts this season. 4 is his high.
He was not challenged tonight. Nothing was hit remotely hard, and so many at bats ended with swings that just weren't close.

Not unless he develops a third pitch and get's his slider above average. Right now he's a one pitch guy but that fastball is plus maybe (probably?) plus plus, which at these levels is unfair. He's throwing as hard as the very best majors relievers as a starter. Which is insane, but can anyone not worry about that arm holding up?
My read of him last night was along the lines of the pitching coach quoted in the previous post. He's got control of an of speed pitch, I guess the slider, which is coming in as fast as other guys fastballs. He threw it to both corners of the plate for called strikes and got tons of swings and misses plus weak contact. Yeah, he's in high A and it will be tested against higher competition, but last night was the most dominating pitching performance I've seen outside of red ball. No one pulled the ball. In 7 innings. Guys hitting .290 had no chance.
 

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Some of the reporting on Devers that I'd read this year is that he not only hasn't outgrown 3B like was initially expected, but has actually been plus defensively at the position. Did what you saw match that?
Certainly no shortage of range at all. He was moving all over the field. He didn't have a chance to make any spectacular plays, but nothing I saw contradicted that.

Aside: His last at bat was also a hard line drive right at the 2Bman.
 

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He was not challenged tonight. Nothing was hit remotely hard, and so many at bats ended with swings that just weren't close.



My read of him last night was along the lines of the pitching coach quoted in the previous post. He's got control of an of speed pitch, I guess the slider, which is coming in as fast as other guys fastballs. He threw it to both corners of the plate for called strikes and got tons of swings and misses plus weak contact. Yeah, he's in high A and it will be tested against higher competition, but last night was the most dominating pitching performance I've seen outside of red ball. No one pulled the ball. In 7 innings. Guys hitting .290 had no chance.
Good to hear, I'd suspect with two pitches if he can throw that hard, healthy the floor becomes pretty solid. Add a change or similar and hello. I think a lot of people kind of subconsciously assume he'll be a reliever. Flamethrower, two pitches. won't hold up etc. But he's throwing HARD and easy into the 7th I mean... if his arm can stayed attached
 

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Kelly adds to his promotion case by striking out he side only giving up one hit. Dubon went 3-4 with another jack, very promising to see some power from him lately. Lastly, Dalbec 2-3 with a triple and two walks. SSS and all but after nearly 100 AB's he is now batting .394 with a 1.181 OPS. He's just toying with that league.
 

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That and he's already repeated the level so it's not like he's going to learn more in Greenville. His strikeout rate in the 2nd half is 30% (200pa, 60k, exactly). He's really looking like a bust, honestly.
I wouldn't put the "bust" label on him too quickly. He was making real strides on his K rate and putting up some gaudy numbers prior to his injury this season.

Chavis is a very similar prospect to Will Middlebrooks, though entering the system one year younger, with similar mL progression to date. Like Middlebrooks the real challenge for Chavis is going to be developing plate discipline. Chavis has shown more aptitude to make that change early this season than Middlebrooks ever did in the minors, but then Middlebrooks moved through the low minors quickly despite huge K rates and by the time he got to AA he was putting up solid overall numbers despite huge K rates because of his power numbers.

Hopefully the repeat year at Greenville, though marred by injury, and the strong 3B depth above him in the farm prevents Chavis from seeing the same rapid rise through the farm and allows for him to develop a more mature approach. But this is what most power hitting HS draftees really are - unfinished products where the club hopes to fix at least one major flaw within the first 3 years of the draftee's mL career.
 

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It may be a bit extreme to call him a bust, but early signs are disappointing. Middlebrooks hit for a higher average and didn't repeat a level. The fact Chavis repeated the level and didn't really improve much at all is troubling.
 

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Owens 6ip 5h 1bb 8k. Over his last 2starts: 13ip, 10h, 1er, 2bb, 14k
Ball 5ip 8h 1er 2bb 7k

And Dubon is 4/4 with 3 doubles... wow.