Rick Porcello...What the heck?

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When the Red Sox traded for Rick Porcello, I felt at the time that it was a good trade. When they extended Porcello to more than $20 million a season, before he even threw a pitch for the Boston Red Sox, I thought they were crazy. I did not like that move at all. I believed he needed to prove that he could pitch in Boston (I don't just mean in Fenway Park...I mean in this market) at a level that would justify that contract before they bestowed it upon him, and frankly, I didn't think he could do it.

The first half of 2015, he proved me right. From the start of the season through July 1, he put up this line:

6.08 era, .818 ops, 1.40 whip, 7.1 k/9, 0.81 gb

Then the rest of the season happened. 9 of his last 12 starts he gave up 3 or fewer runs. He compiled this line:

3.49 era, .747 ops, 1.31 whip, 8.5 k/9, 1.02 gb

Those numbers, obviously, were remarkably better than the previous numbers. But they came at a time when the Sox were pretty much out of it, and it wasn't really clear if this was the "real" Rick Porcello, or if this was the non-pressure Rick Porcello.

Well, fast-forward to this season. 14 of his 19 starts, he's given up 3 or fewer runs. 18 of his 19 starts, he's given up 4 or fewer runs. And that 19th start? He just gave up 5. He didn't totally blow up, like even David Price has on occasion. Just remarkable consistency game-to-game from Porcello.

His line this season:

3.47 era, .702 ops, 1.16 whip, 7.5 k/9, 0.83 gb

So what has happened? How did Porcello turn it around? Was it just bad luck? Compare his 2015 fip and era numbers with those numbers in 2016:

2015
fip: 4.13
era: 4.92
DIFF: +0.79

2016
fip: 3.83
era: 3.47
DIFF: -0.36

He's been more like the 2014 Porcello - the one maybe the Sox were getting. That year Porcello put up this line:

3.43 era, .712 ops, 1.23 era, 5.7 k/9, 1.01 gb

He accomplished those numbers in 2014 with a much heavier dose of ground ball outs, and this year he's elevating more and getting more strikeouts than in 2014.

Since July 1, 2015, here's what Porcello has done for the Red Sox:

31 g, 196.2 ip, 200 h, 76 er, 49 bb, 174 k, 3.48 era, 1.27 whip, 8.0 k/9

28 of those 31 starts, he's given up 4 or fewer runs. In the other three he gave up 5, 6, and 6 runs, with those two 6-run games being just 5 earned runs.

Just tremendous consistency from Porcello. The overall line is not quite Cy Young worthy, but he's proven to be a pretty damned good pitcher for them, and worth that contract they gave him.

So what have you guys seen in Porcello that accounts for his success? I saw him hit 95 a few times last night, which surprised me. The movement on his two-seamer looked very good, especially inside to lefties. And his poise (an intangible, obviously) seemed very good, especially in that first inning when it could have been a crooked number for San Fran and he got out of it unscathed.
 

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He's been a great "no. 2" type of pitcher. I liked the trade but also thought it was an overpay. It still seems to be an overpay, but if we could see the Sox rotation at this point back then, it'd probably be the only way to get someone of his caliber without giving up any of our top prospects... right?
I was actually pushing for an extension as soon as they signed him in the area of $18 million for 5 years. The way his career was moving it seemed like he would get $22 per on the market and was only one year away from FA at the time. $15 didn't seem like enough. $20 still seems an overpay as I think this is his ceiling. Very good. Not "ace" quality.... but next level. That doesn't seem to be $20K per year worth but it probably actually is.
 

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He's been a great "no. 2" type of pitcher. I liked the trade but also thought it was an overpay. It still seems to be an overpay, but if we could see the Sox rotation at this point back then, it'd probably be the only way to get someone of his caliber without giving up any of our top prospects... right?
I was actually pushing for an extension as soon as they signed him in the area of $18 million for 5 years. The way his career was moving it seemed like he would get $22 per on the market and was only one year away from FA at the time. $15 didn't seem like enough. $20 still seems an overpay as I think this is his ceiling. Very good. Not "ace" quality.... but next level. That doesn't seem to be $20K per year worth but it probably actually is.
He's showing a bWAR of 2.3 and an fWAR of 2.0 this morning. You can call him anything you like, but if he stays anywhere close to this pace, he will have earned his contract and then some at the end of the season.
 

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As several recent deals have shown, the going rate for an ace is $30M+. And the going rate for a demi-ace like Lester is about $25M. What $21M buys you is exactly what Porcello has turned out to be--a reliably above-average starter, a #2 in a middling rotation and a #3 in a good one.
 

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What do those GB numbers mean? Are they GB per inning or something? I am used to seeing GB numbers reported as a percentage. Neither fangraphs nor bbref seems to report GB numbers in that format.
 

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By rough numbers, Fangraphs has Porcello at 1.6 WAR last season and 2.0 WAR this season. What are we using these days, $8M per WAR on the open market? So if he can earn another 1.4 WAR this season, the contract would roughly be worth the value so maybe BC isn't a complete fool.
 

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As several recent deals have shown, the going rate for an ace is $30M+. And the going rate for a demi-ace like Lester is about $25M. What $21M buys you is exactly what Porcello has turned out to be--a reliably above-average starter, a #2 in a middling rotation and a #3 in a good one.
I started writing that it was all about the poor 2015 first half coloring perceptions of Porcello in Boston forever, but this post nails it. The average baseball fan understands that the ace pitchers and MVP-level stars get the multi-year nine-figure contracts, but reliably good players just below the superstar level seem to be perceived pretty quickly as 'grossly overpaid' by John Q. Fan. It would probably take Porcello putting up multiple 20-win seasons or having an October for the ages during this deal to change those perceptions.
 

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They overpaid for a durable #2 type pitcher on the right side of 30 who was available at age where most SP are breaking into the MLB. Not exactly a terrible idea.

Probably the least of Cherington's sins.
 

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If the Red Sox get the Rick Porcello they have gotten since the All Star Break last year for the remainder of his contract, the extension will have turned out to be a bargain.
 

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He got away from his sinker or whatever at the start of last year, inexplicably. He's been exactly what we paid for since getting back to it.
 

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They overpaid for a durable #2 type pitcher on the right side of 30 who was available at age where most SP are breaking into the MLB. Not exactly a terrible idea.

Probably the least of Cherington's sins.
I don't think it even qualifies as a "sin" on Cherington's part. In a market where Jeff Samardzija got $18M AAV after his not so hot season, I can't imagine a free agent Porcello, being 4 years younger but with a longer track record of durability (7 straight years of 160+ IP), wouldn't have gotten similar or better.

The pitcher Porcello has been since returning from the DL last year is exactly what Cherington thought he was buying when he traded for him and gave him the extension. He might have paid market rate, but market rate is exactly what it would cost to replace him with something similar.
 

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He got away from his sinker or whatever at the start of last year, inexplicably. He's been exactly what we paid for since getting back to it.
His sinker is not close to what it was in terms of usage or quality, saying he went back to being a sinkerballer is just false.
 

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He's really become one of the better pitchers I've seen at changing eye levels. Schilling was probably the best I've seen at it. When a pitcher throw a sinker down and fading away, and then he throws a change up fading down and away, and then follows it up with a four seamer that's +2/3 MPH and goes straight the ball really appears to rise to the hitter.

He's really mixing his sinker/cross seam/change up well. Add that a curve he throwing for strikes and a cutter, he has lot of weapons to get guys out.
 

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His sinker is not close to what it was in terms of usage or quality, saying he went back to being a sinkerballer is just false.
Do you have anything to back up those claims? All the data that I can find says the opposite:

- his sinker is once again his dominant pitch, as it was in all seasons prior to 2014, except for his rookie year 2009. 2009, 2014 and 2015 are the outliers in that FA (4 seam fastball) usage exceeds FT (2 seam fastball, aka sinker). In all other years, FT is dominant, including 2016.

- during 2015, his disastrous first season with the Red Sox, from April through July he threw 37% fastballs and 28% sinkers. After returning from the DL, from August through October he threw 32% fastballs and 33% sinkers.

To be sure, it can be difficult to distinguish between fastballs and sinkers, but when the anecdotes, the data and the observations all point to the same conclusion, that conclusion is just true.
 

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He's really become one of the better pitchers I've seen at changing eye levels. Schilling was probably the best I've seen at it. When a pitcher throw a sinker down and fading away, and then he throws a change up fading down and away, and then follows it up with a four seamer that's +2/3 MPH and goes straight the ball really appears to rise to the hitter.

He's really mixing his sinker/cross seam/change up well. Add that a curve he throwing for strikes and a cutter, he has lot of weapons to get guys out.
In the past, when Clay has been going good, he's done this extremely well. Lot's of pitches that move similarly, but differently enough, and with enough variation in speed that it's really hard for a hitter to pick up exactly what's being thrown. That tiny difference in recognition can mean an enormous difference in the quality of contact or in the ability to get the bat on the ball at all.
 

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Do you have anything to back up those claims? All the data that I can find says the opposite:

- his sinker is once again his dominant pitch, as it was in all seasons prior to 2014, except for his rookie year 2009. 2009, 2014 and 2015 are the outliers in that FA (4 seam fastball) usage exceeds FT (2 seam fastball, aka sinker). In all other years, FT is dominant, including 2016.

- during 2015, his disastrous first season with the Red Sox, from April through July he threw 37% fastballs and 28% sinkers. After returning from the DL, from August through October he threw 32% fastballs and 33% sinkers.

To be sure, it can be difficult to distinguish between fastballs and sinkers, but when the anecdotes, the data and the observations all point to the same conclusion, that conclusion is just true.
Yeah, I don't really care how much he is throwing it, it's not why he is having success. He's only getting grounders on 45% of balls in play on them and it's being rocked for a .295 average and .445 slugging.
 

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Yeah, I don't really care how much he is throwing it, it's not why he is having success. He's only getting grounders on 45% of balls in play on them and it's being rocked for a .295 average and .445 slugging.
If you don't care how much he's throwing it, why bother to refer to usage? As for success with it, measures of Pitch Value show the sinker as his bread-and-butter pitch (39% of pitches thrown), and above average in terms of results (+.22 runs per 100 sinkers thrown, compared with -.46 per 100 fastballs thrown). A .295 batting average on a sinkerball isn't bad -- in fact it's close to league average BABIP and it suppresses home run power because many of those hits are groundballs. His sinker is performing exactly as it should, getting strikes and setting up the slider and changeup for out pitches.
 

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If you don't care how much he's throwing it, why bother to refer to usage? As for success with it, measures of Pitch Value show the sinker as his bread-and-butter pitch (39% of pitches thrown), and above average in terms of results (+.22 runs per 100 sinkers thrown, compared with -.46 per 100 fastballs thrown). A .295 batting average on a sinkerball isn't bad -- in fact it's close to league average BABIP and it suppresses home run power because many of those hits are groundballs. His sinker is performing exactly as it should, getting strikes and setting up the slider and changeup for out pitches.
Don't forget the elevated fastball w/ 2 strikes. It's been a great weapon for him.
 

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Two other reasons why the Porcello contract is a positive is that it didn't cost us a 1st rounder (signing a FA) or cost us an Anderson Espinoza type via trade. Not to mention the upcoming dearth of SP available. Looking like a savvy move by BenC.
 

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Two other reasons why the Porcello contract is a positive is that it didn't cost us a 1st rounder (signing a FA) or cost us an Anderson Espinoza type via trade. Not to mention the upcoming dearth of SP available. Looking like a savvy move by BenC.
Although acquiring Porcello did cost us a year of Yoenis Cespedes, including 35 home runs in 2015.
 

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Although acquiring Porcello did cost us a year of Yoenis Cespedes, including 35 home runs in 2015.
I'm not a stats guru but can we factor in cespedes' defensive play in left field. It wasn't that good even with his canon arm
 

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He's really become one of the better pitchers I've seen at changing eye levels. Schilling was probably the best I've seen at it. When a pitcher throw a sinker down and fading away, and then he throws a change up fading down and away, and then follows it up with a four seamer that's +2/3 MPH and goes straight the ball really appears to rise to the hitter.

He's really mixing his sinker/cross seam/change up well. Add that a curve he throwing for strikes and a cutter, he has lot of weapons to get guys out.
Not to derail the convo, but better than Pedro? I'm not so sure.
 

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He's evolved into something quite unique stylistically as a pitcher.

I've read that the Sox acquired him because they thought his four-seamer had potential because of his impressive spin rates, but early on last year they got away from the two-seamer. (You can see this at his brooksbaseball.com page.) Now they've developed a kind of hybrid style where he throws the high four-seamer as an out pitch in deep counts (23% of the time with two strikes, in the high teens in 0 and 1 strike counts) while otherwise pitching as a more standard ground-baller. The curveball is also used more in deep counts; the interplay between the high four-seamer and the curve is probably what's garnering all these Ks.

I think it just took them a few months to figure out how to best use his repertoire.
 

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I'm not a stats guru but can we factor in cespedes' defensive play in left field. It wasn't that good even with his canon arm
He was +11 defensively and put up 6.3 bWAR and 6.7 fWAR in 2015.
 

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copy, thats about what i remember i guess. good arm bone head decisions
I don't know if it was bad decisions, I just remember him taking bad routes and booting balls around the field, then gunning guys out. He really just looked clumsy.
 

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Porcello is now quietly out-performing Lester this year by a half win.
Lester's walk rate has gone back up to 2.66 per 9 from 2 per 9 the past two career years for him and his home run has spiked to 1.25 per 9, a career worst.

A lot of this is from a major July rough patch 10.18 ERA (and 3 starts under 5 innings or fewer), so is likely just a blip but it's nice to see Porcello catching up to Lester's performance level this late in the season.
 

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According to Fangraphs value calculator (grain of salt), last night's performance puts him at > $20mil in value this year with roughly 12 starts to go.
 

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It seemed like he was working fast last night, too. He is a lot of fun to watch right now.
He was 2 seconds slower per pitch than his season average. He is generally middle of the pack but last night he was really slow, 24.5 seconds, which is 10 ten slowest starters level.
 

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What was impressive last night was his recognition that the umpire was giving a spot outside the zone and his ability to hit that spot over and over.
 

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What was impressive last night was his recognition that the umpire was giving a spot outside the zone and his ability to hit that spot over and over.
Good point. The strike zone was both big and weird, and Porcello and especially Lincecum were experienced enough to exploit that.