I thought it was pretty obvious that my description was to be taken within the context of him being a front of the rotation starter. He's fine for a middle of the rotation guy, but he's not going to be acquirable for that cost. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Noted. But the post I responded to didn't mention anything about "front of rotation" or cost to acquire him, just that he'd bump EdRo or Wright and his numbers were, well, what we discussed.
I'm not sure that Jeffress will cost a top prospect. He looks like a ROOGY to me. .321/.398/.487 vs. Ls this year. Over the past 3 years before that - .294/.367/.406. Overall, xFIP of 3.47 in '16, nice GB rate. Miller Park is a launching pad too. Of course, with 24 saves(!) and a 2.13 ERA, you might be right that the ask will be high.
Bingo.
Would they give up Giolito for Kimbrel? Kidding.
This is fascinating to me. When we talk about moving Buchholz, we think that there's basically no market for him. But all of a sudden, Jeremy Hellickson, of all people, might fetch 3-4 prospects? Let's compare Hellickson with Buchholz.
That's crazy.
I'm not sure why that's such a surprise. Miller fetched Rodriguez two years ago as a 2-month rental. While his salary is higher now, it's in line with his production and he's locked into it for two more years (so the Yankees aren't in a move him or lose him for nothing position). Between that and the current market place, is it any surprise that a consensus top 5 prospect is the asking price?
I think I would too, but what would we have to pay for another good bullpen arm to replace him?
This is fascinating. Despite his back-to-back losses, Ziegler could close with occasional help, perhaps, from Barnes. It would be tempting to see if the Nats would bite.
I am still a little surprised. Giolito is a much better prospect than ERod ever was.
With his latest meltdown probably more than ever. Aside from that you always want to have people checking for mechanical changes that could indicate physical issues.
Perhaps, but it's unlikely that either of those elements could be determined based off one appearance before the deadline
I was kidding but not 100% kidding.
We'd trade for one of the Royals' arms with different prospects (or something like that). We really need a legit high-minors starting pitching prospect with top of the rotation potential for the 2017-21 window.
If it's true that the Yankees turned this deal down, or anything like it, then count me in as thrilled. If they still can't decide that this isn't their year and turn a reliever into a guy who, a year or two from now, could well be the best starter in the division, then I applaud their organizational philosophy.
They probably won't have space for him once they buy all the 2018 free agents.
holy shit, seriously? I would trade Kimbrel straight up for Giolito of the Nats would do it
There is nothing in Rizzo's track record to suggest this will happen. They will put Giolito in the pen before this happens in all likelihood.
They would put Lopez in the bullpen probably, not Giolito, but the thing is that if he doesn't transition well, then they're stuck for this season. I thought they would work something out for Melancon before I read that PIT needs a MLB-ready 7th inning guy back in any deal for MM, and that doesn't really help WAS.
With a setback from the blister, Hill won't be able to pitch until at least August 5th they are reporting. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing if the cost has come down for Hill (reportedly was Espinosa) and seeing if Beane gets desperate and takes a couple of 2nd tier prospects for him. If you get 5-7 starts out of him down the stretch and have him for the postseason, that is probably and upgrade on EdRo and insurance in case, you know, it rains on Steven Wright in October.
