Trade Deadline Moves 2016

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Rangers deal 2B prospect Travis Demeritte to Atlanta for SP Lucas Harrell and RP Dario Alvarez. Demeritte is a legit prospect at High A (and played in the Futures Game this year). Harrell and Alvarez are both waiver claims from earlier in the year. Nice get for Atlanta.

And that should show everyone the ridiculous price for pitching right now.
 

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Padres get Josh Naylor, BAs #100 ranked prospect for Andrew Cashner and Colin Rea, two guys who by all rights should not have any more trade value than Buchholz. It's still a seller's market out there.

 

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The Marlins/Padres deal right now appears to be.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/07/andrew-cashner-trade-marlins-padres.html
To Miami:
Andrew Cashner
Colin Rea
Tayron Guerrero

To San Diego:
Josh Naylor
Luis Castillo
Jarred Cosart
Carter Capps
AJ Preller is the best GM in baseball. Period. He now has a cost controlled closer (Capps) a starter with upside if he can get straightened out. A top 1B prospect for freaking Andrew Cashner and two non factors. Castillo is also not a bad arm. After rebuilding his farm system that was gutted last year by going for it now he rebounds this year by giving the Padres a better system than they had 2 years ago. Amazing.

Please trade Buchholz in this market.
 

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Not often you get the best player as a seller, but Capps is just nasty. Honestly, if he had just traded Cashner for Capps I'd have been impressed.
 

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AJ Preller is the best GM in baseball. Period.
Um, no. This is the guy who is paying James Shields over $40M for a season and a third, plus gave up the #13 overall pick to sign him. This is the guy who is paying Melvin Upton $40M for a season and a third, and got a meh prospect in return. This is the guy who turned down Michael Fulmer for BJ Upton last trading deadline, then let Upton go in free agency and watched Fulmer turn into one of the best starters in the AL. He might not be the single worst GM in baseball anymore, but he is still pretty close.

And can we stop acting like Capps is a sure thing to return and be dominant? Not only is he coming back from TJS, but baseball clarified his ridiculous hop step and so he may have to alter the way he pitches once he is back:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/miami-marlins-carter-capps-hop-step-delivery-removal-052015
 

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Um, no. This is the guy who is paying James Shields over $40M for a season and a third, plus gave up the #13 overall pick to sign him. This is the guy who is paying Melvin Upton $40M for a season and a third, and got a meh prospect in return. This is the guy who turned down Michael Fulmer for BJ Upton last trading deadline, then let Upton go in free agency and watched Fulmer turn into one of the best starters in the AL. He might not be the single worst GM in baseball anymore, but he is still pretty close.

And can we stop acting like Capps is a sure thing to return and be dominant? Not only is he coming back from TJS, but baseball clarified his ridiculous hop step and so he may have to alter the way he pitches once he is back:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/miami-marlins-carter-capps-hop-step-delivery-removal-052015
Preller made a mistake by keeping Justin Upton. But let's look at what he's done.

Traded Kimbrel for Margot Guerra Allen and another small player. Huge win for him.
Traded a scrub 1B for Drew Pomeranz
Traded Pomeranz for Anderson Esponosa
Then this trade.

He has rebuilt that entrie farm system in 4 moves. That's crazy. I would not worry about Capps at all yes he had TJ but how many pitchers end up not coming back from it nowadays? He's going to be a cost controlled closer for 3 years. This guy is honestly playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers this year.
 

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Um, no. This is the guy who is paying James Shields over $40M for a season and a third, plus gave up the #13 overall pick to sign him. This is the guy who is paying Melvin Upton $40M for a season and a third, and got a meh prospect in return. This is the guy who turned down Michael Fulmer for BJ Upton last trading deadline, then let Upton go in free agency and watched Fulmer turn into one of the best starters in the AL. He might not be the single worst GM in baseball anymore, but he is still pretty close.

And can we stop acting like Capps is a sure thing to return and be dominant? Not only is he coming back from TJS, but baseball clarified his ridiculous hop step and so he may have to alter the way he pitches once he is back:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/miami-marlins-carter-capps-hop-step-delivery-removal-052015
You're missing the narrative. Preller is the bets GM in baseball because he "stole" prospects from the Red Sox, prospects that are destined to become Hall of Famers
 

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Um, no. This is the guy who is paying James Shields over $40M for a season and a third, plus gave up the #13 overall pick to sign him. This is the guy who is paying Melvin Upton $40M for a season and a third, and got a meh prospect in return. This is the guy who turned down Michael Fulmer for BJ Upton last trading deadline, then let Upton go in free agency and watched Fulmer turn into one of the best starters in the AL. He might not be the single worst GM in baseball anymore, but he is still pretty close.

And can we stop acting like Capps is a sure thing to return and be dominant? Not only is he coming back from TJS, but baseball clarified his ridiculous hop step and so he may have to alter the way he pitches once he is back:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/miami-marlins-carter-capps-hop-step-delivery-removal-052015
He also willingly acquired Matt Kemp which was one of the shittiest moves in the past few years, especially when they had no true centerfielder to compensate for the already horrific OF defense.
I'll at least give him that he has cut some of his losses and gotten some good guys to work with.
 

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He has rebuilt that entrie farm system in 4 moves. That's crazy.
You mean the farm system he gave away for nothing 18 months ago?

This guy is honestly playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers this year.
Heh, whatever he is playing, he is not playing it well overall. By the way, Shields, who he not only traded at minimum value, but is paying the bulk of his salary for two more years, has refound his groove in Chicago and has a 2.11 ERA over his last seven starts. How valuable a trade asset would he have been this week if alleged chess-boy hadn't given him away for nothing two months ago?
 

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He also willingly acquired Matt Kemp which was one of the shittiest moves in the past few years, especially when they had no true centerfielder to compensate for the already horrific OF defense.
I'll at least give him that he has cut some of his losses and gotten some good guys to work with.
Yeah, Preller's offseason of 2014-2015 was as horrific as a GM could be, honestly probably the worst offseason of any GM in quite some time. Since then, I'd probably give him a B or a B+, it's not the hardest thing in the world to gut your pitching staff when pitching prices are this high and he has hardly been flawless about it along the way (see the moves and non-moves I mention above).
 

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What Preller is actually playing is darts, but he has thrown three times as many as most other GMs over the last two years. You can be impressed with the bullseyes, but there are a bunch more that have missed wildly in the same time period. :)
 

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AJ Preller is the best GM in baseball. Period. He now has a cost controlled closer (Capps) a starter with upside if he can get straightened out. A top 1B prospect for freaking Andrew Cashner and two non factors. Castillo is also not a bad arm. After rebuilding his farm system that was gutted last year by going for it now he rebounds this year by giving the Padres a better system than they had 2 years ago. Amazing.

Please trade Buchholz in this market.
I think we're more than just a couple of years away from being able to evaluate the moves that your son has made this season Mrs. Preller.
 

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If Jay Bruce is the main piece it doesn't count as an extravaganza.
I'd guess that was meant towards there being a lot of players/moving parts involved, as opposed to Bruce being the key guy. He's having a hell of a year but yeah, prob not what Stark meant. I'm leaning more towards like a ten guy, three team deal.
 

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Oh year, Stark, well Morosi says nyah nyah, you're wrong

8:31pm: Morosi says the Rays are still a player; he tweets that the team could end up shipping out two starters, one to each of the two other teams.
They're playing "My source can beat up your source." The Dodgers are looking to move Puig. He's owed a little over 2 and half million this year and 17 and half combined in the next two seasons. That's a contract the Rays can take on even if L.A. doesn't throw in some cash.
 

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I don't get this deal at all
The money is confusing because the Dodgers are paying money on both deals, but I think it lets the Padres play younger outfielders in Kemp's spot and gives the Braves an extra hitter, something they have evidently been looking for.
 
Rumor is San Diego is also including $ with Kemp to help even the salaries (although I'm sure the Braves will wind up taking on some net salary if the Padres are just going to DFA Olivera):

@Joelsherman1: Kemp owed $54M from 2017-19, Olivera owed $28.5M from 2017-20.

The Braves offense is so horrific that Kemp actually qualifies as an upgrade, particularly in that he gives the Braves some power, and Olivera has that domestic abuse rap over his head, so I kinda get it from both teams' perspectives. (Maybe Kemp rebounds enough to be trade bait next July?)
 

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mlbtr: Lin reports that the Padres are sending $10-12MM to the Braves in the trade as well (Twitter link). San Diego, then, would be saving anywhere from $13.5MM to $15.5MM over the duration of the 2017-19 seasons. They’ll also save about $5MM on the remainder of Kemp’s 2016 salary. The Braves, who have a very minimal amount of commitments on their long-term ledger, can effectively look at this as an opportunity to acquire Kemp on a three-year deal worth $13.5MM to $15.5MM. They’d have been paying Olivera the $28.5MM one way or another, so the cost to them is essentially the difference between the two commitments (minus the additional cash being included by the Padres).
 

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That is close to $30M that SD will be paying three guys to play for other teams next season (Shields, Upton, Kemp), all players that Preller acquired since being hired in August 2014. Yeah, he's doing an impeccable job. :)