NHL Draft Game Thread

TheRealness

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Charlie Jacobs was a disaster, but I'm perfectly fine with McAvoy. Doesn't appear there is much difference between him and Fabbro. I'm glad the didn't draft Chychrun.
 

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Where the fuck are these 10 B+ prospects McGuire keeps talking about?
Junior and the NCAA, mostly. Of their top prospects, only Subban has played a full season in pro.


Senyshyn, DeBrusk, Heinen, Gabrielle, JFK, Fitzgerald?

Zboril, Gryzlcek, Carlo, Lauzon, O'Gara?

Subban
 

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McAvoy is the safe pick. I'm not thrilled, but at least I know who he is - and I know he was projected to go in that general timeframe. Thank god.
Have to agree with this. Didn't reach for a forward, Fabbro has the higher upside but lower floor and with Chychrun I don't trust Sweeney's judgment enough to catch a falling knife.
 

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Sigh, McAvoy was a distant 3rd on my wish list there. Great tool, very questionable hockey smarts
 

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I'll admit I haven't looked too much into the kids projected to be around at 29, but Niemelainen sounds good to me. I know Kirk is high on him, big kid who can skate. Or maybe a Gauthier falls down.

Seems like there wasn't much separation between McAvoy/Fabbro/Chychrun, so I'm OK with the pick. I'll give Gretzky and his staff the benefit of the doubt for now.
 

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I'm just not that sure safe is the word I would use to describe McAvoy.

Sweeney looks like death
 

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Good call cshea

Datsyuk + 16

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Vitale + 20 + 53


Fantastic value for Chayka - for 4 spots with a high-value set of 5 picks available, he gets the #53, and a useful piece in Vitale
 

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I don't care what they do position wise with the 29th. I would go with BPA.
Yeah figure those players are generally a couple years away regardless so no use drafting for need unless the system has an absurd glaring deficiency that can actually be addressed at that spot. Which it doesn't seem to.
 

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Outstanding draft for Arizona thus far, Keller + Chychrun while you pick up Vitale + 53 for Datsyuk's dead cap hit.

Fuck I hate-love Chayka.
 

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I'd love to see the Bruins try to move up and grab Gauthier. He's the type of goal scorer this team needs.
Not sure Gauthier is one of those guys who dominated because he was so much bigger and stronger than everyone in the Q. And even with that he kind of disappeared during the second half of the season this year. Kid is an absolute physical beast.

Wow, just what Nashville needs, another absolute STUD of a player..
 

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It's certainly not bare - but there's also no truly elite prospects in the pipeline either. Senyshen and Forsbacka-Karlsson might be the closest things they have, and even they're not sure things at this point.
I didn't say anything about whether they had a plethora of elite prospects. And it's not even close to bare. Prospect depth is one of the only positive things I have for the Bruins right now.
 

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I didn't say anything about whether they had a plethora of elite prospects. And it's not even close to bare. Prospect depth is one of the only positive things I have for the Bruins right now.
That's what I was criticizing McGuire's comments for. I like their prospect depth. I think they have plenty of guys that will be good 2-4 line players and 3-6 defensemen. But you can't say they have 10 B+ prospects when theirs really not a potential top line forward or top pair defenseman in the group.
 

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Outstanding draft for Arizona thus far, Keller + Chychrun while you pick up Vitale + 53 for Datsyuk's dead cap hit.

Fuck I hate-love Chayka.
Chayka gave up Vitale + 53.

Looks to me like Detroit got out from under Datsyuks cap hit for free.

Retract the Coyotes.
 

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Chayka gave up Vitale + 53.

Looks to me like Detroit got out from under Datsyuks cap hit for free.

Retract the Coyotes.
Yikes, my bad, been paying less attention than I should.

Obviously not nearly as good for AZ and closer to neutral (even in DET's favor despite AZ getting their guy). Seems like a shrewd move for Holland. He's still got great talent on the board and picking up assets while creating room for Stamkos is significant.
 

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That's what I was criticizing McGuire's comments for. I like their prospect depth. I think they have plenty of guys that will be good 2-4 line players and 3-6 defensemen. But you can't say they have 10 B+ prospects when theirs really not a potential top line forward or top pair defenseman in the group.
I can't claim to know hockey prospects as well as I know baseball ones (the numbers don't translate in the same way, and my eyes don't catch as much...which is weird because I was a better hockey player than a baseball player, but I digress), but this line of logic bothers me because as best I can tell, outside of the absolute top prospects (i.e. the Kanes, the Ekblads, etc) hockey seems about as random as baseball (or basketball for that matter) in terms of prospects actually becoming the players they were projected to be. Guys like Marchand, Bergeron, Chara, Krejci, etc., all become much better players than they were ever projected to be, while outside of the Top 20 or so prospects (overall, not organizationally) it's completely random as to whether they make it or not, and even a good number of those Top 20 guys don't pan out (and a lot of those Top 20 guys get ranked there despite already having NHL time logged, to a degree that in other sports they wouldn't be considered a "prospect" anymore). It seems to me that depth of "good" prospects is about as good as you can expect from an organization, because you're not going to be loaded with Top 20 prospects in all of hockey, and some of those "good" prospects are just as likely as the guys in the rest of Top 50 to actually become star caliber players.