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Man, Drew Pomeranz has been getting fucked this year. As of right now, his season ERA is 1.62 (through 7 shutout innings tonight), and yet, he's locked in another 0-0 pitcher's duel. When you look at his cumulative run support numbers, they don't look all that bad, but when you look deeper, you realize it's a misleading number. He got 24 runs from his offense in his first two wins.

In his other 7 starts, including tonight, the Padres have scored a total of 7 runs. He's lost games so far this year by scores of 1-0, 2-1, 3-0 and 5-4, and he's won games 1-0 and 2-0 (outside of the 2 blowouts in his first two wins).

It's funny because he's going up against Cueto tonight, who seems to also have issues with run support. He's 6-1 on the season, but he's also won games by scores of 2-1, 4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 2-1 and 4-3 (he also had two 9-6 wins, and his loss was 2-6). Who will come out on top in the battle of guys whose offenses hate them on most nights?

Edit: Through 7 innings tonight, Cueto has given up 1 hit, no walks, and 4 k's, and Pomeranz through 6.1 has given up 2 hits, 3 walks and 3 k's. Fun stuff.
 

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Clayton Kershaw is playing a different game than everyone else once again.
Only 7Ks and a BB today though. Drops his K:BB down to 95:5 for the season.

The NL CY young race between Kershaw and Arrieta is going to be really fun (hopefully both play full healthy seasons).
 

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3 Shutouts is enough to lead one of the leagues every now and then in today's game. Kershaw has 3 complete game shutouts in his last 5 starts (amazingly, he's only needed 101, 102 and 109 pitches in those games). Threw a 2 hitter tonight with 7 k's and 1 walk. ERA is now 1.48. He's on pace for a 335:18 K/BB rate. LOL
 

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Man, Drew Pomeranz has been getting fucked this year. As of right now, his season ERA is 1.62 (through 7 shutout innings tonight), and yet, he's locked in another 0-0 pitcher's duel. When you look at his cumulative run support numbers, they don't look all that bad, but when you look deeper, you realize it's a misleading number. He got 24 runs from his offense in his first two wins.

In his other 7 starts, including tonight, the Padres have scored a total of 7 runs. He's lost games so far this year by scores of 1-0, 2-1, 3-0 and 5-4, and he's won games 1-0 and 2-0 (outside of the 2 blowouts in his first two wins).

It's funny because he's going up against Cueto tonight, who seems to also have issues with run support. He's 6-1 on the season, but he's also won games by scores of 2-1, 4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 2-1 and 4-3 (he also had two 9-6 wins, and his loss was 2-6). Who will come out on top in the battle of guys whose offenses hate them on most nights?

Edit: Through 7 innings tonight, Cueto has given up 1 hit, no walks, and 4 k's, and Pomeranz through 6.1 has given up 2 hits, 3 walks and 3 k's. Fun stuff.
And Pence has a walk-off popup thanks to Matt Kemp's "defense."
 

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Only 7Ks and a BB today though. Drops his K:BB down to 95:5 for the season.

The NL CY young race between Kershaw and Arrieta is going to be really fun (hopefully both play full healthy seasons).
Sherzer's not exactly toast himself. It's awesome to watch them all.
 

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I agree with daveuk. Great call. Allowed me to flip the channel to NBA and not worry about channel surfing.
Great call? It was nuts not to issue warnings and to throw Thor out right away. Perfect "right way" for Syndergaard to send a message. It was a breaking ball at no risk of hitting Utley, in the general vicinity of his butt. Mets were screwed by a rookie ump.
 

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Great call? It was nuts not to issue warnings and to throw Thor out right away. Perfect "right way" for Syndergaard to send a message. It was a breaking ball at no risk of hitting Utley, in the general vicinity of his butt. Mets were screwed by a rookie ump.
It was a 99 MPH fastball. Some message.
 

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Great call? It was nuts not to issue warnings and to throw Thor out right away. Perfect "right way" for Syndergaard to send a message. It was a breaking ball at no risk of hitting Utley, in the general vicinity of his butt. Mets were screwed by a rookie ump.
You are a delusional fool.

As daveuk points out, it was a 99 mph fastball thrown behind a batter. There is no legitimate argument against the ejection.
 
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You are a delusional fool.

As daveuk points out, it was a 99 mph fastball thrown behind a batter. There is no legitimate argument against the ejection.
That's an exaggeration - there is a perfectly legitimate argument, that it doesn't even follow precedent over the last month, much less going further back. Hughes didn't even get warned for throwing at Donaldson twice (including once behind), and Bush didn't get ejected for drilling Bautista.

If MLB wants a rule that 'intentionally throwing at or near a hitter is an automatic ejection', then that's a rule that they can implement (and I'm honestly not against that rule)... but if not, then it's an arbitrarily over the top punishment for the Mets when other pitchers who have actually hit people have gotten far less.
 

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That's an exaggeration - there is a perfectly legitimate argument, that it doesn't even follow precedent over the last month, much less going further back. Hughes didn't even get warned for throwing at Donaldson twice (including once behind), and Bush didn't get ejected for drilling Bautista.

If MLB wants a rule that 'intentionally throwing at or near a hitter is an automatic ejection', then that's a rule that they can implement (and I'm honestly not against that rule)... but if not, then it's an arbitrarily over the top punishment for the Mets when other pitchers who have actually hit people have gotten far less.
When "actual hit people" are usually nailed in retaliation, they get awarded a base. Where's Utley's reward for Thor not actually not being able to plunk him?

Or was the miss by Thor just a weak ass effort intended to send a 8 month old message? It's going to cost Thor and his manager a game each. I'll bet that they won't appeal.
 

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That's an exaggeration - there is a perfectly legitimate argument, that it doesn't even follow precedent over the last month, much less going further back. Hughes didn't even get warned for throwing at Donaldson twice (including once behind), and Bush didn't get ejected for drilling Bautista.

If MLB wants a rule that 'intentionally throwing at or near a hitter is an automatic ejection', then that's a rule that they can implement (and I'm honestly not against that rule)... but if not, then it's an arbitrarily over the top punishment for the Mets when other pitchers who have actually hit people have gotten far less.
It is not a legitimate argument to claim that the pitch in question was "a breaking ball at no risk of hitting Utley." That's the post I was responding to.

It takes about 30 seconds of work to understand what Syndergaard threw out there and I'm not going to engage in a discussion on the merits of a false premise.
 

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Does anyone think it would have received anything more severe than a warning had the Bautista fight not just gotten national media attention?

Though if they're going to have a no tolerance policy for dumb cross-season vendettas now I'm okay with that.
 

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Apparently the pitch was a very fast fastball, but in real time it looked like a well-controlled slider, and my husband and I, and everyone in the FOX booth (bad companions, I know) thought the immediate rejection was an over-reaction. Now that I know how hard a pitch it was, despite my near-absolute faith in Syndergaard's ability to control it, and thus that Utley was in no danger, I see that the pitch deserved punishment. But, as others have said, it's frustrating that umpiring seems so uneven, and there is no way to predict exactly which pitch will get a pitcher ejected.
 

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I understand the frustration, but the fact remains that a pitcher with pinpoint control throwing 99 mph behind a hitter cannot claim a lack of intent. And once that intent is established, it is within the umps discretion to toss him with no warning.

The fact that there is no consistency doesn't make it a bad call. That's symptomatic of a different problem.
 

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Yikes! James Shields with a disastrous start today in Seattle: 2.2 innings, 8 hits, 10 runs (all earned), 4 walks (Cano three times), 1 strikeout, 2 home runs allowed
 
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Yeah, I mean, I'm being sarcastic and am 80% kidding, but when we talk disgruntled-ly about why we're always buying high on guys... this is the sort of time and scenario that "buying low" looks like. And nobody's going to be chomping at the bit for it, thinking that if they only could get ahold of Shields, they could limit his inconsistency (especially given he's outperformed his FIP for 4 years running...).

That said, his performance thus far this year would be a dramatic upgrade over most of our rotation, even allowing an NL -> AL adjustment factor.
 

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Yeah, I mean, I'm being sarcastic and am 80% kidding, but when we talk disgruntled-ly about why we're always buying high on guys... this is the sort of time and scenario that "buying low" looks like. And nobody's going to be chomping at the bit for it, thinking that if they only could get ahold of Shields, they could limit his inconsistency (especially given he's outperformed his FIP for 4 years running...).

That said, his performance thus far this year would be a dramatic upgrade over most of our rotation, even allowing an NL -> AL adjustment factor.
If he's been pitching better than most of our rotation, how would that be buying low?
 

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Yeah, I mean, I'm being sarcastic and am 80% kidding, but when we talk disgruntled-ly about why we're always buying high on guys... this is the sort of time and scenario that "buying low" looks like. And nobody's going to be chomping at the bit for it, thinking that if they only could get ahold of Shields, they could limit his inconsistency (especially given he's outperformed his FIP for 4 years running...).

That said, his performance thus far this year would be a dramatic upgrade over most of our rotation, even allowing an NL -> AL adjustment factor.
Shields' 1.299 WHIP is better than exactly one current member of the starting rotation (Kelly), his FIP of 3.90 is better than exactly one current member of the starting rotation (Kelly), and his K/9 is is better than exactly zero current members of the starting rotation (....).

He might currently sport a 3.06 ERA, but Petco's current-year park factor is 95 for hitters (93 multi-year); Fenway's is 110 (107 multi-year).

It would be a shitshow of epic proportions to both add salary and also pay in players to acquire him.Just so "Big Game James" could be a #5 starter likely very comparable to the recently-demoted Clay Buchholz.
 

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I'm browinsg tonight's games and Thor pitched an inning of relief? Collins wtf?
Easy explanation. It was his throw day, and he was coming off a start where he was ejected after 30 or so pitches. The Mets pen was spent, so he used a starter in an inning of relief.

It happens a few times every season.
 
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Not having watched a ton of Mets regular-season games, what is the informed-fan beef with Collins? Is it just rooted in that his team last year and this year has .600+ WPCT talent and wins at a .550 clip?
 

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Gary Cohen is on fire in the Mets game today. He and Ron Darling had this riff on how some broadcasts (Yankees radio?) have a sponsor for EVERYTHING, and Cohen asked when we'd hear "This slider sponsored by White Castle."

Then with White Sox up, Curtis Granderson had to stretch to make a catch in the gap and Gary mocked Hawk Harrelson, saying "STRETCH!"
 

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Mets and White Sox are in the 13th, Matt Albers with his first AB since 2009 slammed a double into the left-center gap, barely made it to second (he is not svelte), and now is at third after a wild pitch, no one out.
 

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Albers scores on a not that deep sacrifice fly, lousy throw by Lagares. Robertson has already pitched, so this is probably Albers' game to try to finish.
 

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Bartolo warming in case the Mets tie it up and take it to the 14th.
 

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Albers closes out the 2-1 win. He gets the win and scores the winning run, but if he was two separate people (which he kind of is big enough for, not quite Colon-shaped but not too far off), he would have gotten a save also (since he pitched both the 12th and 13th). Nice day's work...
 
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