General Playoff Thread: The Long 2nd Season

ElUno20

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I love waiters. Can't wait to hear what he has to say about the play.

Still don't know how the spurs couldn't score on a 3 on 1 to win the game
 

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I love waiters. Can't wait to hear what he has to say about the play.
He will say nothing because Donovan basically claimed ignorance and I believe he will have all of his players do the same. It was a such a blatant no-call and the NBA, to its credit, will own it tomorrow. Its remarkable that the TNT crew is essentially at a loss to describe a similar situation from any of their respective careers.
 

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I love waiters. Can't wait to hear what he has to say about the play.

Still don't know how the spurs couldn't score on a 3 on 1 to win the game
Agreed. I feel like Ginobili should have taken the shot. Even if he misses, decent chance of a putback.
 

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Just looking at the quick video on that, it seemed like a fair number of calls on both sides were missed. It looks as if Ginobili stepped over the line, which I believe at that point in the game is a technical on its own. Walters push off of course, and lots of jostling/contact on the court as well. It'll be interesting to see what the NBA said.
 

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My favorite part was Waiters just sitting there for 2 seconds after he made the bad pass.
 

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Lefty beat me to it. A lot happened in the sequence. Including Adams knocking a fan over and that fan holding onto him to get back up
 

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You know you have a bad coach when he chooses Dion fucking Waiters to inbound in that situation... wtf were they thinking???
That he was a better option than Adams or Obaka? Having your 2-guard inbounding to Durant/Westbrook seems pretty standard.
 

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You know you have a bad coach when he chooses Dion fucking Waiters to inbound in that situation... wtf were they thinking???
Hard to believe, but Waiters has actually been a productive player in the last two months or so. He's not as good a defender as the starting 2-guard (Roberson), but he's a better shooter. He usually plays with the four starters during crunch time.
 

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Hard to believe, but Waiters has actually been a productive player in the last two months or so. He's not as good a defender as the starting 2-guard (Roberson), but he's a better shooter. He usually plays with the four starters during crunch time.
Everyone on this board is a better shooter than Roberson. Waiters did make a big 3 down the stretch when the Spurs were only down 2 but he still makes so many boneheaded plays. He's basically the Thunder's JR Smith.

Side note but Thunder and Cavs are pretty similar to me in roster construction. LeBron/Kyrie/Love vs. Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka as primary scorers. Thompson and Adams do the dirty work. Smith and Waiters are the mercurial bench guards off the bench. Roberson and Shumpert are the defense-minded wings who can't score to save their lives. And Frye and Kanter are the bench bigs who can't defend a lick but can provide some bench offense. Not a perfect comparison but both these teams are too flawed to beat either SA or GS.
 

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Interesting apparently despite what everyone thought the rule against leaving the playing surface doesn't mean jumping.
 

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Interesting apparently despite what everyone thought the rule against leaving the playing surface doesn't mean jumping.
This caught my eye, as my rules knowledge is strongly influenced by being a former HS ref. I always assume when I misunderstand an NBA rule, it is due to different rules at that level. Regarding inbounding violations, I had to check NBA rule book recently after seeing a few cases where a Celtic ran the baseline when inbounding to open a new period. I had never noticed that before, and had not been aware it is legal.
 

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They admit to missing 5 calls in the last 13.5 seconds. And it probably should have been 6, because the inbounds pass took longer than 5 seconds. They admit to a total of 8 in the last 1 minutes, 31 seconds.

I honestly can say that I don't think I've played a game of pickup basketball where we were calling our own stuff, and we would have missed 8 calls in 10 minutes, never mind less than 2 minutes. These are professional refs, supposedly the best of the best, and it's a farce how bad the officiating is in every game. Does the NBA release this type of report after every game, or was this a rare exception? i'd love to be able to check these reports after some of the games I watch, and see if they take an honest approach and note every missed or incorrect call, or do they usually spit something out that makes themselves look good (like the NFL would do), if they release them at all.
 

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NBA officiating is hard--the game could probably need at least one more official--and so the reports don't usually rake officials over the coals, but I think they're fair and they own up to mistakes.
 

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NBA officiating is hard--the game could probably need at least one more official--and so the reports don't usually rake officials over the coals, but I think they're fair and they own up to mistakes.
They definitely owned up to the calls a lot better than the NFL would have. I'll give the NBA that much.
 

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The Raptors just let 15+ seconds go off the clock in a must-foul situation. GJGE.
 

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Demar DeRozan is a good talent but, man, would he infuriate me with his chucking and low bball IQ.
 

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The Blazers are just an awesome TEAM, all of those guys work so damn hard to become greater than the sum of their parts. Lillard takes like the best parts of Curry and Westbrook and puts them into one package.
 

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Green doesn't get called for any fouls really. Hilarious how much he gets away with. Blazers just don't have the horses. As much as I love this team.
 

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Green doesn't get called for any fouls really. Hilarious how much he gets away with. Blazers just don't have the horses. As much as I love this team.
Don't know about the foul thing but I agree with you that this is an easy team to love. And yeah, they need more depth to compete beyond this level. Stotts is a great coach and Lillard is a beast.
 

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Draymond is a really physical defender and commits a ton of fouls under the rule, but they tend to swallow the whistle in the playoffs and everyone knows this so it's useless to compare about ticky tack fouls not being called unless it's in end of game situations.
 

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Demar DeRozan is a good talent but, man, would he infuriate me with his chucking and low bball IQ.
With Lowry going 10 straight games of shooting <40% from the field and 1 for his last 22 behind the arc the only chance the Raptors have are to get DeRozan the ball to create shots and get to the line.
 

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With Lowry going 10 straight games of shooting <40% from the field and 1 for his last 22 behind the arc the only chance the Raptors have are to get DeRozan the ball to create shots and get to the line.
Yes....if you're assuming that Lowry will never snap out of his shooting slump.
 

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The Cavs have 16 made 3s already, second quarter is not yet over (!!!). The alltime record for made 3s by a team in their first six playoff games was HOU with 70 in 2013, CLE is up to 88 now.
 

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The Cavs are obliterating the Hawks in the first half right now. Have just made their 18th three pointer of the first half and are one basket from doubling up the Hawks 74-38 at the end of the first half. Its been horrendously one sided.
 

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So many lopsided games this postseason so far, so few where they are both competiitive and both teams are playing well. At least both game 2s out West were very entertaining, this one is already into garbage time.
 

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So many lopsided games this postseason so far, so few where they are both competiitive and both teams are playing well. At least both game 2s out West were very entertaining, this one is already into garbage time.
It's because the league sucked this year. Warriors record chase did a great job of hiding this.
 

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Just based on the eyeball test, the cavs have been moving the F out of the basketball these first two rounds.

How legit is this? Does this translate in the finals?
 

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Time for the annual complaint about the NBA's ridiculous playoff scheduling. Why are there four days off in between games in the GSW/POR series?
 

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Time for the annual complaint about the NBA's ridiculous playoff scheduling. Why are there four days off in between games in the GSW/POR series?
Same thing for OKC/SA. All about the tv schedule. Definitely annoying that Spurs/OKC is on a Friday night.
 

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They don't need him this series. I would hold him out unless absolutely necessary.
I think ideally he gets at least one game in before the Spurs series to shake off rust, especially since they need to defend home court in games 1/2 (yes, I am disrespecting OKC here, I would love to be proven wrong).
 

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I think ideally he gets at least one game in before the Spurs series to shake off rust, especially since they need to defend home court in games 1/2 (yes, I am disrespecting OKC here, I would love to be proven wrong).
One game would probably be a good idea. I think you're right to disrespect OKC. I expect Spurs to win 3 out of the next 4 games and possibly 3 straight.
 

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Yes....if you're assuming that Lowry will never snap out of his shooting slump.
It isn't only a slump he's far from 100%. Lowry has had his shooting elbow drained at least twice in the past 6 weeks and missed the Celtics game in late March due to the injury.
 

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Jonas Valanciunas is a beast. He is the reason Toronto was able to pull that game out last night. Love his game.
 

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Jonas Valanciunas is a beast. He is the reason Toronto was able to pull that game out last night. Love his game.
Jonas made Whiteside his personal bitch in the 4th quarter and OT last night.

I'd be scared shit to be the team paying Whiteside without having a strong veteran leadership culture in place. Miami has this in Wade, Bosh, and Deng yet STILL it is a constant struggle to get focus and effort out of him.......can you imagine when he has a $100m contract in his pocket rather than the $950k one he's cashing in on now? Whiteside's failure to close out on Lowry on switches cost Miami the game last night. Once Lowry and Casey recognized this leak they attacked it on virtually every possession and the Heat (and Spoelstra) never adjusted.