2016 NFL Draft: Day 2, Rounds 2-3
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Pats still have an early 4th to get us off to the right start tomorrow. And they made Faulk take of the jersey.
Well, I hated the JG pick last year in the 2nd round, and if Brissett is a sign that BB doesn't think JG can handle the four games without TB, I'll hate it even more. If JG is still the future, then did BB really grab Brissett to act as a backup for four weeks? Is that all a third round pick is worth (when you don't have a 1st round pick)? Do the Pats carry 3 QB's this year?
I don't know. Head scratching as usual.
I don't know. Head scratching as usual.
When you only have 2 QBs on the roster and the starter is facing a 4 game suspension to start the season, and the backup has barely played in the league, you need another QB. They decided to go the draft route (personally I agree with this because why waste cap space on a veteran for the short term need?) and I'm sure they targeted the late 3rd/early4th types. Of those, it seems they got the guy they wanted as a longer term project since they bypassed Cook, Hogan, Kessler.
Surprised they used all the 3rd rounders. They have 8 (?) more picks I think. That's a lot of rookies to bring to camp on a roster that doesn't have a ton of holes.
I'd put the o/u on the number of picks they make of those 8 around 6. But knowing BB, he'll probably turn it into 14 and draft all of them.
JG is not the future only because TB12 isn't going anywhere soon. Brisset on the other hand could be perfectly ripe by the time Brady hangs 'em up.
Yes. They pretty much always have a couple redshirt guys who are on the roster but healthy scratches week after week. Last year Trey Flowers was on the roster until Week 13 and only active once.
Plus they'll need someone to be backup once they start the season 4-0 and then trade JG for two firsts and Larry Fitzgerald.
He's probably too raw to help during the first four games. Its a pick for 2019 or whatever, if Brady finishes his contract Jimmy G will be elsewhere. They'll very likely roll with 3 QBs in 2016.
From Reiss. ... Geesh, some of the names in there
2015: 2 (Brady/Garoppolo)
2014: 2 (Brady/Garoppolo)
2013: 2 (Brady/Ryan Mallett)
2012: 2 (Brady/Ryan Mallett)
2011: 3 (Brady/Brian Hoyer/Mallett)
2010: 2 (Brady/Hoyer)
2009: 2 (Brady/Hoyer)
2008: 3 (Brady/Matt Cassel/Kevin O'Connell)
2007: 3 (Brady/Cassel/Matt Gutierrez)
2006: 2/3 (Brady/Matt Cassel -- Vinny Testaverde/mid-year)
2005: 3 (Brady/Cassel/Doug Flutie)
2004: 3 (Brady/Rohan Davey/Jim Miller)
2003: 3 (Brady/Davey/Damon Huard)
2002: 3 (Brady/Davey/Huard)
2001: 3 (Drew Bledsoe/Brady/Huard)
2000: 4 (Bledsoe/John Friesz/Michael Bishop/Brady)
2015: 2 (Brady/Garoppolo)
2014: 2 (Brady/Garoppolo)
2013: 2 (Brady/Ryan Mallett)
2012: 2 (Brady/Ryan Mallett)
2011: 3 (Brady/Brian Hoyer/Mallett)
2010: 2 (Brady/Hoyer)
2009: 2 (Brady/Hoyer)
2008: 3 (Brady/Matt Cassel/Kevin O'Connell)
2007: 3 (Brady/Cassel/Matt Gutierrez)
2006: 2/3 (Brady/Matt Cassel -- Vinny Testaverde/mid-year)
2005: 3 (Brady/Cassel/Doug Flutie)
2004: 3 (Brady/Rohan Davey/Jim Miller)
2003: 3 (Brady/Davey/Damon Huard)
2002: 3 (Brady/Davey/Huard)
2001: 3 (Drew Bledsoe/Brady/Huard)
2000: 4 (Bledsoe/John Friesz/Michael Bishop/Brady)
I still think they likely pick up a Lindley or Matt Flynn vet min type for the four games.
I feel like they do this in the first round, but very rarely later. First round fallers are sometimes just a matter of the right fit not coming along, but you've got to figure that guys falling in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds are falling for reasons beyond just fit, and it just seems very unlikely that the Pats would end up being less concerned about red flags than everyone else.
For camp, absolutely. Whether they spare the roster spot to carry that guy depends on just how bad Brissett looks in camp. He has to beat out Lindley or Flynn in year 1. If he can't do that then he a real goal to work on for year 2.
The salary guarantee for veterans Week 1 might mean they cut that vet, resign him and cut costs with this Lindflynn after Week 4.
Or maybe they let Edelman take the emergency snaps.
JG was drafted 2 years ago. Which means he entering his third year with this team, this system and this coaching staff.
The notion that Brissett would overtake him and be served up as a rookie QB to start the season -- on the road in the opener against the Cardinals no less -- has me scratching my head.
I think this is nothing more than restocking the QB shelf every 2 years or so, which makes a ton of sense when your QB is 39 years old.
If they are really lucky 1) brady continues to be productive 2) JG lights it up for 4 games 3)Brissett shows enough to make the pats comfortable about trading JG. But any one of these things could fall apart on us.
Nick Caserio's press conference was awesome. His answers were thorough and long. Explained a lot of the pre-draft process. That was very enjoyable to listen to.
There's no point to drafting a Flynn or Lindley. If they're that bad off where one of those two is a major upgrade over what's already on the roster than there's literally no point in even having drafted these guys. Lindley is the worst quarterback I've ever seen, I can't even imagine how he makes practice squads.
I heard something on the ticket (Dallas radio station) about Cook and that night. I'm summarizing this: the people running the event told the MC and the guy who introduced Archie that the MVP trophy was to be introduced, no speech from Archie, and an immediate presentation to the winner. The person on the ticket interviewed said Cook was sitting near the end of the stage and didn't expect to win the trophy. He had, by his standards, a mediocre game and there was no clear MVP. He was surprised and embarrassed that he won. It was an awkward situation for the MC and presenters as well as Cook but Cook wasn't being arrogant.
On phone so that link isn't showing up, but for gods sake, you're criticizing a person for disrespecting Archie manning? He should be celebrated. It's a fucking manning. I'd call him a douche maybe if it was Cooper but Archie and the other boys? Fuck Em. I'd rather have seem him knock his old ass down and take a crap on his face.
I'll take your word on the video in good faith and now root for Cook to conquer the world. That kids got chutzpah.
Edit: it's a sad day when this place is defending a manning for being disrespected. This may the lowest point of BBTL.
Also now that I had time to sleep on it they did take Dennard in the 7th, so there are some such picks.
I'm more than happy to have them not just pluck guys from the top of whatever pundit's rankings, but it's kind of funny every year for me to be seduced by the "holy shit X, Y, and Z are still available" posts only to see BB make a pick that comes from an entirely different alphabet, so to speak.