Manning Legacy: Scrotal Recall

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I don't disagree but if you want people to listen to this story, you need to explain why this isn't "old news."

Also, and while this isn't fair or absolute, our society generally is more tolerant of misogyny or even sexual assault than racism. As this board has debated many times over, the role of women in sexual assaults continues to be at least on par with that of men – what was her behavior and did it contribute to the violation? Investigations into acts of racism, OTOH, now largely start with questioning the actions of the perpetrators.

All of which is to say, Manning is on much shakier ground as a privileged, drawling southerner suggesting his accuser slept with black men than he is accusing her of asking for it or being a lesbian.
Good point. Showing what is new would help overcome those that would downplay it as old news.
 

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From the WWL

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776509/lawsuit-alleges-peyton-manning-tennessee-athletes-created-hostile-sexual-environment


"Peyton Manning is among the athletes cited in a lawsuit filed by a group of women alleging that the University of Tennessee has violated Title IX regulations and created a "hostile sexual environment" through a policy of indifference toward assaults by student-athletes.

The Tennessean first reported the lawsuit and Manning's involvement.

The federal suit filed Tuesday in Nashville states Tennessee's policies made students more vulnerable to sexual assault and had a "clearly unreasonable response" after incidents that caused the women making complaints to endure additional harassment. The suit also states the university interfered with the disciplinary process to favor male athletes."
 

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From the WWL

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776509/lawsuit-alleges-peyton-manning-tennessee-athletes-created-hostile-sexual-environment


"Peyton Manning is among the athletes cited in a lawsuit filed by a group of women alleging that the University of Tennessee has violated Title IX regulations and created a "hostile sexual environment" through a policy of indifference toward assaults by student-athletes.

The Tennessean first reported the lawsuit and Manning's involvement.

The federal suit filed Tuesday in Nashville states Tennessee's policies made students more vulnerable to sexual assault and had a "clearly unreasonable response" after incidents that caused the women making complaints to endure additional harassment. The suit also states the university interfered with the disciplinary process to favor male athletes."
I guess this is the new news?
 

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Perhaps someone working on (or in support of) that lawsuit is the reason King got the PDF last week?
 

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A girl I went to high school with now lives in Nashville and is married to a huge UT fan. Her family has always had some UT ties as well, and she went on a rant on FB about how there is no way any of this is true. She is a dyed in the cloth Steeler fan who despises the Patriots and was incredibly vocal about TB12 and the whole Deflategate mess. I posted on her FB that there is more evidence that Peyton is sex offender than there was against TB12 hatching a scheme to deflate footballs. Needless to say I was defended quickly and told that Peyton is a true American hero and the most upstanding athlete in all of sports.
 

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ESPN updated the story about an hour ago re the pending UT lawsuit where Peyton is named among 10 UT athletes (2 are charged with aggravated rape awaiting trails later this summer.)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776509/lawsuit-alleges-peyton-manning-tennessee-athletes-created-hostile-sexual-environment

I find it ironic that Archie's book is entitled: "Manning: A Father, His Sons and a Football Legacy" because clearly the "legacy" came at the expense of people's reputation and lives along the way, and covered up some pretty slimy stuff.

I am still trying to get my head around the fact that the guy who Peyton said he was mooning flat out said that was not what happened and asked Peyton to "come clean" and yet all we hear crickets from the media who had pitchforks for TB/BB based on Mort's tweet. Guys like Breer and Kravitz essentially are saying "yawn" to this story as they await marching orders from an "inside source" to spoon feed them their opinions. Not that Kravitz is on Breer's level of course.
 

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ESPN updated the story about an hour ago re the pending UT lawsuit where Peyton is named among 10 UT athletes (2 are charged with aggravated rape awaiting trails later this summer.)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776509/lawsuit-alleges-peyton-manning-tennessee-athletes-created-hostile-sexual-environment

I find it ironic that Archie's book is entitled: "Manning: A Father, His Sons and a Football Legacy" because clearly the "legacy" came at the expense of people's reputation and lives along the way, and covered up some pretty slimy stuff.

I am still trying to get my head around the fact that the guy who Peyton said he was mooning flat out said that was not what happened and asked Peyton to "come clean" and yet all we hear crickets from the media who had pitchforks for TB/BB based on Mort's tweet. Guys like Breer and Kravitz essentially are saying "yawn" to this story as they await marching orders from an "inside source" to spoon feed them their opinions. Not that Kravitz is on Breer's level of course.
For what it's worth, this tweet from D&C of several hours ago:
I was just told by a current ESPN anchor that all ESPN employees were told not to report or discuss the Daily News story on Peyton Manning.
I guess whoever updated that story didn't get the memo. Or it doesn't actually exist.
 

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For what it's worth, this tweet from D&C of several hours ago:


I guess whoever updated that story didn't get the memo. Or it doesn't actually exist.

The ESPN link has a video clip of OTL with Bob Ley interviewing a Tennessee-based reporter about the lawsuit and Manning.
 

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richarddeitsch: Many of you asked why ESPN had not reported/commented on the New York Daily News story on Peyton Manning. Here is a response from an ESPN spokesperson:

"We were following up and doing our own reporting. We posted something when we were comfortable and continue to report responsibly on the story."
 

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Mr "Hot Takes" Kravitz weighs in.. guess which side?

"Again, we were offered just one side of the story in the Daily News piece, which was written to illustrate the double standard we sometimes apply to black athletes (in this case, Cam Newton) versus white athletes (in this case, Manning)."

http://www.wthr.com/story/31219107/kravitz-raising-some-questions-on-the-daily-news-story-on-peyton-manning
Yes, he's siding with Manning, with the occasional caveat. But it doesn't hurt to remember that what Kravitz (and Florio before him said) is true: The court documents in the Daily News story are indeed the case presented by her lawyer; they are the accusations, not the findings of fact.
 

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I would have gone with Peyton Manning: When the Moon Hits Your Eye Like a Big Pizza Pie thatsa Lawsuit: A Father, a son, and a tainted football legacy.

Maybe a tad bit too long.
 

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Yes, he's siding with Manning, with the occasional caveat. But it doesn't hurt to remember that what Kravitz (and Florio before him said) is true: The court documents in the Daily News story are indeed the case presented by her lawyer; they are the accusations, not the findings of fact.
I understand that.. I am just noting the Irony where Kravitz and others were calling for BB to be fired and all that before the case was resolved. 2 standards when it's his Golden Boy.

Disclaimer: I am still pissed re Deflategate and I am not sure if I will ever get over it. I don't want Peyton's head here just because.... I want the media to hold him to the same scrutiny they put TB thru on a much less "real life" thing.
 

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Yes, he's siding with Manning, with the occasional caveat. But it doesn't hurt to remember that what Kravitz (and Florio before him said) is true: The court documents in the Daily News story are indeed the case presented by her lawyer; they are the accusations, not the findings of fact.
Of course, but those court documents also reveal actual court testimony by people involved in some of the cases.
 

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Of course, but those court documents also reveal actual court testimony by people involved in some of the cases.
Agreed, but there's been more than a little reaction that takes this as gospel truth. As I've said, I'm no Manning defender; it's simply that when you get one side of the story -- whether here or in the Wells report -- it doesn't mean it's exactly what happened ... regardless of included testimony. It might seem like a small point, but it's one to keep in mind
 

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“@ShaunKing: I believe we will be able to release the redacted portion of the court documents as well. I’ve discovered what that was about. Deep & ugly.”
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Interesting to see some British and Australian media have already picked up this story. None of it is old news about Manning for them.

Addendum: Sorry, YTF, I should have specified latest UT lawsuit.
 
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The ESPN link has a video clip of OTL with Bob Ley interviewing a Tennessee-based reporter about the lawsuit and Manning.
Assuming you're referring to the clip found here.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776509/lawsuit-alleges-peyton-manning-tennessee-athletes-created-hostile-sexual-environment

The article attached contains quite a bit but the clip is practically void of any mention of Manning. In the 5:37 clip Ley never mentions or asks about Manning and Dustin Dopirak (the guy being interviewed) mentions that this goes all the way back to 1995-96 that "includes one case involving Peyton Manning." That's it, that's all. No further detail by Dopirak nor follow up by Ley.
 

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Oh, man. This is getting juicy.
Question for the legal folks, is the Daily News (or any media outlet) in jeopardy for publishing the redacted portions even if the Daily News was not part of the agreement between Plaintiff and Defendant on sealing the records?

Also, in light of this weekend's events, am I correct that the unlikely possibility of Manning filing a defamation suit vs. Al Jazeera should now be ranked at absolute zero?
 
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Great thread title. As a Peyton Manning hater, this news is fulfilling and very distressful. I hope the story does get traction, the whole thing is disgusting. It's a bad family. Eli is the only one who isn't an absolute douche. Which is why he didn't cheer when he realized Peypey was going to get his 2nd ring.
 

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Question for the legal folks, is the Daily News (or any media outlet) in jeopardy for publishing the redacted portions even if the Daily News was not part of the agreement between Plaintiff and Defendant on sealing the records?

Also, in light of this weekend's events, am I correct that the unlikely possibility of Manning filing a defamation suit vs. Al Jazeera just went to absolute zero?
The Daily News is not a party to that confidentiality agreement...they have nothing to worry about. Now, if someone gave it to them that was subject to the confidentiality agreement, then perhaps that person is at risk, but not the Daily News.

Manning's defamation lawsuit was never going anywhere, ever. Still waiting for former Celtics owner Paul Gaston to sue the WSJ for "$100 Million".
 

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Question for the legal folks, is the Daily News (or any media outlet) in jeopardy for publishing the redacted portions even if the Daily News was not part of the agreement between Plaintiff and Defendant on sealing the records?

Also, in light of this weekend's events, am I correct that the unlikely possibility of Manning filing a defamation suit vs. Al Jazeera should now be ranked at absolute zero?
Answer to the first question is no.
 

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Question for the legal folks, is the Daily News (or any media outlet) in jeopardy for publishing the redacted portions even if the Daily News was not part of the agreement between Plaintiff and Defendant on sealing the records?

Also, in light of this weekend's events, am I correct that the unlikely possibility of Manning filing a defamation suit vs. Al Jazeera should now be ranked at absolute zero?
If the Washington Post/NY Times can publish the Pentagon Papers, I think the Daily News can publish the Peyton Papers.
 

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I like how the Manning apologists are blowing this off likes its a 20 year old freshman mistake that we shouldn't care about. Overlooking the points King made in his article. ESPN finally ran a 30 second blurb about it before they cut back to Nascar.
 

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c/o Shalize Manza Young at Yahoo, the latest from Shaun King's Facebook page:

I wrote what I wrote because I just learned about it. I just received those documents this past week.

5. I have now learned of at least 6 journalists who've had the documents I received last week for years and pretty much refused to release them or reveal the full weight of what they revealed. The machine put in place to protect Peyton Manning is incredible. It's not just reverence though, it's fear. He and his family will attempt to ruin you if you cross him.

6. The story we released is part 1 of several parts. I chose to tell one very particular story first, but we have much more we will be releasing in the days ahead.
 

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c/o Shalize Manza Young at Yahoo, the latest from Shaun King's Facebook page:

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6. The story we released is part 1 of several parts. I chose to tell one very particular story first, but we have much more we will be releasing in the days ahead.
This is glorious to hear. I hope Naughtright gets some measure of satisfaction seeing this scumbag get dragged through the mud a bit.
 

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Is there any speculation around what occurred in '94 that was the "Genesis for Peyton Manning's dislike for Dr. Naughright"?