Manning Legacy: Scrotal Recall

E5 Yaz · Feb 13, 2016

Chris Kluwe is not amused

Chris KluweVerified account‏@ChrisWarcraft
Also, fuck Peyton Manning with an Ebola covered gardening fork. What a disgusting scumbag of a human being.

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 22m22 minutes ago
There's your legacy, Peyton. A shitheel privileged redneck fuckstick who used daddy's name to cover up criminal behavior. Fuck you.

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 16m16 minutes ago
Let's see how quickly ESPN and the NFL decide to gargle the "Manning name"s nuts and whitewash this away.

Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt · Feb 13, 2016

This Valentine's Day, I heart Chris Kluwe.

luckiestman · Feb 13, 2016

E5 Yaz said:
Chris Kluwe is not amused

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Also, fuck Peyton Manning with an Ebola covered gardening fork. What a disgusting scumbag of a human being.

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 22m22 minutes ago
There's your legacy, Peyton. A shitheel privileged redneck fuckstick who used daddy's name to cover up criminal behavior. Fuck you.

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 16m16 minutes ago
Let's see how quickly ESPN and the NFL decide to gargle the "Manning name"s nuts and whitewash this away.

Another drunk kicker running his mouth?

E5 Yaz · Feb 13, 2016

I wonder if "shitheel privileged redneck fuckstick" would fit on his forehead

Marciano490 · Feb 13, 2016

It speaks to his character that a sexual assault is the worst thing anyone can dig up on him?

I'm not a great person by any means, but there's nothing I've done near as bad as that. And I say that without the slightest scintilla of pride.

teddywingman · Feb 13, 2016

E5 Yaz said:
I wonder if "shitheel privileged redneck fuckstick" would fit on his forehead

Maybe with a little more HGH.

Soxfan in Fla · Feb 13, 2016

E5 Yaz said:
I wonder if "shitheel privileged redneck fuckstick" would fit on his forehead

Fantastic!!!!!!

Red(s)HawksFan · Feb 13, 2016

E5 Yaz said:
I wonder if "shitheel privileged redneck fuckstick" would fit on his forehead

Please. With room to spare.

LogansDad · Feb 13, 2016

CoffeeNerdness said:
One-sided court documents presented by a potentially biased journalist about a dumb kid making a boys will be boys mistake way back in the old days of the 90's. The narrative has been solidified.

I'm sorry, but putting your balls and ass on an unwilling woman's (or man's, for that matter) face is NOT "boys will be boys", either today or in the 1990's. Especially one who is simply attempting to do her job.

Marciano490 · Feb 13, 2016

Yeah. In the post-Cosby world this isn't going away.

Harry Hooper · Feb 13, 2016

CoffeeNerdness said:
Can anyone speak to the significance, or lack thereof, of this:

The footnote on page 10 of the DN's PDF states, "Plaintiff's counsel, as a courtesy, will comply with his [Manning counsel's] request for the present time. However, by so doing, neither Plaintiff nor Plaintiff's counsel is in any way agreeing that Plaintiff's testimony or her documents are confidential and not subject to public disclosure."

Of course, we don't know the terms that were eventually incorporated into the settlement.

CoffeeNerdness · Feb 13, 2016

Was Archie in Scalia's hunting party? What a convenient death.

Mr Jums · Feb 13, 2016

CoffeeNerdness said:
Was Archie in Scalia's hunting party? What a convenient death.

This post was a fascinating way to find out about that particular news item...

brandonchristensen · Feb 13, 2016

kind of funny that manning wins and now people start to hate him again (not here, we have always hated him).

Had he lost none of this gets brought up I would imagine.

Kenny F'ing Powers · Feb 13, 2016

Marciano490 said:
Yeah. In the post-Cosby world this isn't going away.

Unless he went on a teabag spree for the ages, it already has. It was settled in court 20 years ago and Manning is teflon. He'll teabag his own HoF bust in a few years, and people will chuckle how he can make light of "minor problems" he had when he was just a kid.

Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt · Feb 13, 2016

When do we start the thread about Peyton and his thugs arranging a "make it seem like natural causes" hit on Scalia to draw attention away from Shaun King?

Jed Zeppelin · Feb 13, 2016

soxhop411 said:
Katie Nolan deserves better

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/peyton-manning-newest-target-of-fake-internet-outrage-brigade-021316

What's that weird thing people do before being in a fraternity? Oh right, they agree to join.

Marciano490 · Feb 13, 2016

Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Unless he went on a teabag spree for the ages, it already has. It was settled in court 20 years ago and Manning is teflon. He'll teabag his own HoF bust in a few years, and people will chuckle how he can make light of "minor problems" he had when he was just a kid.

As were some of Cosby's issues. As were issues involving many bad actors that were settled hundreds of years ago and relitigated now.

brandonchristensen · Feb 13, 2016

If Brady can play 3 more seasons at this years level, he could end up with better numbers than Manning across the board (Touchdowns would likely need a fourth year). That would be something.

bankshot1 · Feb 13, 2016

CoffeeNerdness said:
Was Archie in Scalia's hunting party? What a convenient death.

Roger Goodell has cancelled all games tomorrow

Kenny F'ing Powers · Feb 13, 2016

Marciano490 said:
As were some of Cosby's issues. As were issues involving many bad actors that were settled hundreds of years ago and relitigated now.

$100 to the jimmy fund that this never gets relitigated?

Kenny F'ing Powers · Feb 13, 2016

Ya know, in the next year or so...not in the next couple hundred years.

Harry Hooper · Feb 13, 2016

Wow, the footnote from p.55 the PDF is right out of some cheap Hollywood melodrama on collegiate athletics:

Dr. Naughright was discussing a summary sheet which indicated that the seniors on the football team had been involved in various at risk behavior including criminal behavior and many having grade point averages of 0.00. Coach Phillip Fulmer's response was to write 11-1 at the top of the paper. 11-1 was the team record the previous year.

Pages 49-50 also lay out an interesting account of Gary Wyant asking Naughright if she could somehow obtain a videotape of Tennessee football players having sex with a minor. Said tape was to be given to the defense counsel for a player up on charges. Seems like Wyant is still working today as the Executive Associate Athletic Director at University of Tennessee.

Some folks at Florida Southern and its Sixth Man boosters also could face some tough questions given what's in the PDF, but they'll probably skate. Surreal that pitcher Tommy John involved there.

Marciano490 · Feb 13, 2016

Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Ya know, in the next year or so...not in the next couple hundred years.

I said re litigated because my brain is off and I couldn't think of another word for rediscussed. I don't think this is going back to court, but I think it'll be out and about in public for awhile.

Happy to bet on that. Or anything really.

Kenny F'ing Powers · Feb 13, 2016

Marciano490 said:
I said re litigated because my brain is off and I couldn't think of another word for rediscussed. I don't think this is going back to court, but I think it'll be out and about in public for awhile.

Happy to bet on that. Or anything really.

$100 says that Manning's dick is under 5 inches.

Devizier · Feb 13, 2016

Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Unless he went on a teabag spree for the ages, it already has. It was settled in court 20 years ago and Manning is teflon. He'll teabag his own HoF bust in a few years, and people will chuckle how he can make light of "minor problems" he had when he was just a kid.

I mean, seriously. Ray Lewis participated in killing someone and he's fucking yucking it up with all the other knuckleheads at America's Leader...

Marciano490 · Feb 13, 2016

Kenny F'ing Powers said:
$100 says that Manning's dick is under 5 inches.

Which Manning and whose throat is measuring?

Kenny F'ing Powers · Feb 13, 2016

Marciano490 said:
Which Manning and whose throat is measuring?

Either and whichever Manning is left.

Granite Sox · Feb 14, 2016

Sporting News: http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/time-for-manning-to-walk-away-with-whats-left-of-his-rep/ar-BBpsTqr?li=BBnbfcL

No real content, but author does compare Manning to Lance Armstrong...

Put on your rally caps!

Hendu for Kutch · Feb 14, 2016

This article might be the most vile thing I've read in a long time. Like, I had to double check and make sure it wasn't satire. Here's all the different ways to wave the whole thing away wrapped up in one article.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/peyton-manning-newest-target-of-fake-internet-outrage-brigade-021316

Oops...see this was covered with the Katie Nolan tweet.

CantKeepmedown · Feb 14, 2016

I don't know to post twitter here, but Dennis and Callahan just tweeted this....

I was just told by a current ESPN anchor that all ESPN employees were told not to report or discuss the Daily News story on Peyton Manning.

BaseballJones · Feb 14, 2016

CantKeepmedown said:
I don't know to post twitter here, but Dennis and Callahan just tweeted this....

I was just told by a current ESPN anchor that all ESPN employees were told not to report or discuss the Daily News story on Peyton Manning.

I was just about to post how embarrassing it is for espn.com that they have not mentioned this at all, when everyone else is now talking about it, but then I saw your post here and it all makes sense.

Horrifying for a sports media organization to not mention this huge story. Even more horrifying for that organization to instruct its employees to not mention it.

Unbelievable.

luckiestman · Feb 14, 2016

CantKeepmedown said:
I don't know to post twitter here, but Dennis and Callahan just tweeted this....

I was just told by a current ESPN anchor that all ESPN employees were told not to report or discuss the Daily News story on Peyton Manning.

Is there any actual news?

Red(s)HawksFan · Feb 14, 2016

CantKeepmedown said:
I don't know to post twitter here, but Dennis and Callahan just tweeted this....

I was just told by a current ESPN anchor that all ESPN employees were told not to report or discuss the Daily News story on Peyton Manning.

Randy Scott, perhaps?

Harry Hooper · Feb 14, 2016

Red(s)HawksFan said:
Randy Scott, perhaps?

ESPN's Sarah Spain has multiple tweets on the Manning-Daily News story.

Van Everyman · Feb 14, 2016

Shouldn't the news here be: "Report: Manning accused Tenn. athletic trainer of sleeping with black athletes"?

Average Reds · Feb 14, 2016

There are so any angles to it. Manning smeared the trainer, repeatedly. He played the race card, repeatedly. He violated a settlement, repeatedly. He got the trainer to be dismissed from two jobs and cost another UT athlete his scholarship. And he lied under oath, repeatedly.

It's easy for Manning's defenders to reduce this to a "youthful prank" and dismiss the entire thing, but the reason this has legs is how appalling the incident is and how long it went on in an obviously personal vendetta.

Van Everyman · Feb 14, 2016

Agreed. But my point is, per Al Breer's comments, if a reporter wants to make hay out of this, it needs to be broken down into "what's new here?" We already knew about the assault and cover story. We already knew about the violations of the settlements. There may be other pieces regarding the ghostwriter's testimony.

But the charge that Manning and his team were spreading false rumors that a white, female athletic trainer at a southern state university who had brought charges against him was not only sleeping with students but black students is explosive, damning and new. To me, that's the story here.

EricFeczko · Feb 14, 2016

Since the HGH story is in hibernation but the sexual harrassment/slander story is in full national force (finally), should the thread be renamed or the sexual harrassment/slander stuff be moved to a separate thread?

Dropkick Izzy · Feb 14, 2016

Peyton Manning: Sex, Drugs and Shitty Pizza

geoffm33 · Feb 14, 2016

Van Everyman said:
Agreed. But my point is, per Al Breer's comments, if a reporter wants to make hay out of this, it needs to be broken down into "what's new here?" We already knew about the assault and cover story. We already knew about the violations of the settlements. There may be other pieces regarding the ghostwriter's testimony.

But the charge that Manning and his team were spreading false rumors that a white, female athletic trainer at a southern state university who had brought charges against him was not only sleeping with students but black students is explosive, damning and new. To me, that's the story here.

Your second point is great, but I don't think your first point is valid. The bolded is what I have a problem with. "We" is a very small group of people within a larger group known as sports fans. The average sports fan never knew any of this.

TheoShmeo · Feb 14, 2016

EricFeczko said:
Since the HGH story is in hibernation but the sexual harrassment/slander story is in full national force (finally), should the thread be renamed or the sexual harrassment/slander stuff be moved to a separate thread?

I know that it's not what we usually do here, but I admit that I'd prefer one Pile On Peyton thread.

I really hope this new story stays front and center. I've always thought that Peyton was a piece of crap. His "I don't mean to be a bad teammate, but now I'm going to be a bad teammate" routine told me that, and while I always truly loved seeing him flap his arms and shrug his shoulders when things went badly for him on the field, it was another indication of the same. But that was just drawing some very possibly wrong conclusions. Given schadenfreude and continuing annoyance at the Pats loss to his team (albeit with little contribution from him), this new/not new story is delicious largely because it is so much more tangible. Here's to more of the same coming out.

EricFeczko · Feb 14, 2016

Oh I agree, I just think the title should be changed then. If I was actually good at titles, I'd give a recommendation.
I don't know, something like manning scandal 2: sexual bugaloo, or manning: a remembrance of scandals past.
Like I said, I'm awful at making titles.
EDIT: Didn't see dropkick izzy's suggestion, which is much better than mine.

Spelunker · Feb 14, 2016

Dropkick Izzy said:
Peyton Manning: Sex, Drugs and Shitty Pizza

Ooh, I like that. Or,

Peyton's Place of Shame

Laser Show · Feb 14, 2016

Spelunker said:
Ooh, I like that. Or,

Peyton's Place of Shame

Manning's Legacy: Tainted?

Van Everyman · Feb 14, 2016

geoffm33 said:
Your second point is great, but I don't think your first point is valid. The bolded is what I have a problem with. "We" is a very small group of people within a larger group known as sports fans. The average sports fan never knew any of this.

I don't disagree but if you want people to listen to this story, you need to explain why this isn't "old news."

Also, and while this isn't fair or absolute, our society generally is more tolerant of misogyny or even sexual assault than racism. As this board has debated many times over, the role of women in sexual assaults continues to be at least on par with that of men – what was her behavior and did it contribute to the violation? Investigations into acts of racism, OTOH, now largely start with questioning the actions of the perpetrators.

All of which is to say, Manning is on much shakier ground as a privileged, drawling southerner suggesting his accuser slept with black men than he is accusing her of asking for it or being a lesbian.

Harry Hooper · Feb 14, 2016

Average Reds said:
There are so any angles to it. Manning smeared the trainer, repeatedly. He played the race card, repeatedly. He violated a settlement, repeatedly. He got the trainer to be dismissed from two jobs and cost another UT athlete his scholarship. And he lied under oath, repeatedly.

It's easy for Manning's defenders to reduce this to a "youthful prank" and dismiss the entire thing, but the reason this has legs is how appalling the incident is and how long it went on in an obviously personal vendetta.

Go beyond the Mannings. Per the Plaintiff's filing, Gary Wyant (and the deceased Rollo) were the ones who tried to cajole Naughright into blaming everything on another athlete. It says Wyant also tried to get Naughright's help in obtaining the video of the sex with the minor. He wanted to get the tape to the defense counsel to be used against the girl who had filed a rape charge against a player. As the filing notes, handling such material might be a child pornography violation. Wyant seems to still be working as the Executive Associate Athletic Director at University of Tennessee.

DegenerateSoxFan · Feb 14, 2016

And Tom Brady gets boned over by the league and booed in Santa Clara. A guy who has never been accused of anything even remotely approaching this shit. Who never makes excuses or throws anyone under the bus after a loss.

Fuck the Mannings. Fuck the University of Tennessee. Fuck the NFL and the shitweasel passing as its commissioner. Fuck ESPN. And fuck every corporate & educational entity that ignores & enables this shit (unless it affects their bottom lines of course).

I sincerely hope that trainer got some serious bucks from the settlements.

Soxfan in Fla · Feb 14, 2016

Average Reds said:
There are so any angles to it. Manning smeared the trainer, repeatedly. He played the race card, repeatedly. He violated a settlement, repeatedly. He got the trainer to be dismissed from two jobs and cost another UT athlete his scholarship. And he lied under oath, repeatedly.

It's easy for Manning's defenders to reduce this to a "youthful prank" and dismiss the entire thing, but the reason this has legs is how appalling the incident is and how long it went on in an obviously personal vendetta.

Great summation. What's new really is the HGH allegations and the fact his actions are following the same pattern.

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