Thanksgiving Week Game Thread
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look at what the receivers are doing on that play... they just run straight into the end zone and bump into their respective DBs. that's your best, 4th down gotta have it play? dog shit
No clue why Rodgers locks onto Adams so much. His hands seem suspect and he didn't create much separation all night
I was going to make that fucking joke but thought I would be the only one that found it funny
Neither were the Giants in 07 or 11. I agree problems go beyond Nelson, and I think something is not quite right with Aaron. Not close to writing the Packers off if he can get right.
Genius having a LB cover Cobb. They must have stolen signals and known the play call was, "run towards the nearest Bears defender and then stand still."
Edit: or maybe bey just knew their tendencies from watching the Packers play any other game this season
You're a Jets fan so easy for you to say. But, around here, it's only cool to have Brady ranked #2 and the flavor of the season (this year it's been Rodgers... soon to be replaced by Newton) must be #1.
EDIT: Otherwise, you're a fanboy. Read the QB rankings thread.
There's no mystery at all. The constant media blowjob on Rodgers is tired. He can't carry Brady's jock.
That's why I haven't posted in there. Well that and some people having Peyton ranked any higher than 25. Mind, boggles.
Very entertaining game tonight, especially considering it as low scoring. No shortage of drama, no shortage of garbage officiating. Everything we've come to know and love from the NFL. Family!
Bigger problem than Rodgers is the coaching. In the Broncos game, Rodgers was running around for 3+ seconds on many plays before throwing it away or taking a sack. The coverage was too good and the offense had no answers. That's not Rodgers' fault, the coaches need to work out ways to get guys free.
Maybe the problem is that Rodgers can't read defenses and throw timing and option routes, and he only relies on athleticism to give his guys time to get open. But I think he's been too good at timing routes in past years for this to explain it. I think it's the fault of McCarthy's schemes.
Is there a QB in the world other than TB that wins that Bills game on Monday? If it were not for an inadvertent whistle, Brady puts up at least 27 with a makeshift OL and no WRs.
I'll say it... Rodgers is a BIG step below Brady in talent. One SB appearance? Whatever.
I'll say it... Rodgers is a BIG step below Brady in talent. One SB appearance? Whatever.
This posts screams for a "like" button.
I think playoff Eli is the only other current QB that could pull out a game like that.
I appreciate your support. But, remember, in order to appear cool and objective on SoSH, you cannot be effusive in your praise of Brady (whenever you cite Brady, be sure sure to always modify any declarative statements with the phrase "one of..."). After all, there are still those who say Peyton is better or at least his equal and Rodgers, too. Then there's the ultimate SoSH cop out - "Well, sure, I'd take Brady's career over his, but I'm not sure that means he is any better than him."
I am the furthest thing from cool so I don't sweat that. I just went to xtra mart in my god damned batman pajamas.
I like Rogers but I'm not putting him anywhere near Brady. Aaron had 2 shots to go ahead inside the final 5 minutes, one drive fell on its face and the other failed to break the plane despite first and goal with plenty of time. Against the Bears. Brady lives for those drives.
Calling other posters "fanboys" is probably something we want to get away from guys. Name calling has gotten a bit out of control lately so let's all be a bit mindful.
Especially in this instance. That 1-32 thread is not necessarily negative against Brady in any way. He was universally picked top 3. And people who picked Brady weren't mocked as fanboys.
The argument over the launching penalty set the tone for the day, it seems.
Aaron Rodgers has the highest passer rating and adjusted net yards per attempt of all time, both by considerable amounts (obvious caveats for era) and was the best player in football just last year. He is not a step below anybody in talent, never mind a BIG step.
As for his one SB appearance, was he supposed to put up more than 45 points when they lost to Arizona? Granted it was only the WC round and they likely would've gotten waxed by the Saints the next week just like the Cardinals did, but it's dumb to criticize him for that. What about last year when he goes to the SB if they can recover an onside kick? I guess he should have played defense in OT too. Loser! And considering Brady couldn't get through the AFC in 2012 and 2013, you probably shouldn't be criticizing Rodgers for being unable to get through the absolute minefields of the NFC those years, especially with a defense that was 31st in DVOA in 2013.
Tom Brady is awesome. He very well might be the GOAT. The idea that he's a BIG step above Aaron Rodgers though is the height of lunacy.
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Why are we discussing the past? In the 2015 season, Tom Brady is a much better player then Aaron Rodgers. How is that an argument?
The post I quoted referenced Rodgers' one SB appearance, so I was responding to something discussing the past.
Yeah, I was talking about the entire conversation as well.
Rodgers has had some phenomenal years, but Brady is better this year. There's room for more than one QB in the NFL.
Rodgers has had some phenomenal years, but Brady is better this year. There's room for more than one QB in the NFL.
Of course Brady has been better this year and considering I called him awesome and said he very well might be the GOAT, I think I gave him his due. I was just referencing that bringing up Rodgers' one SB appearance is dumb and his career numbers don't really take a back seat to anybody, so it's kind of hard to justify that he's a big step in talent below Brady.
Did you delete your posts from that thread? I can't find your contribution.
No, the only comment in that thread about Rodgers/Brady was mine, in which I said I expected more people to rate Brady ahead of Rodgers because this is a Patriots board.
The lack of reading comprehension runs neck-and-neck with the need to be aggrieved for why this forum has fallen off in recent times.
Whether it's the QB thread or elsewhere, there seems to be a tendency to call people out for being too pro-BB, Pats, Brady. And it is true, home fans everywhere are often biased, and this board is no exception in that regard, even if it is indeed better than many others. At the same time, in 2015, there's good cause to rank Tom, Bill and the Pats in general near or at the very top.
My view is that fans of other teams who are not raging Pats haters, and are objectively looking at Brady versus Rodgers, would easily rank Tom over Rodgers this season. I don't think it's even close. The percentages will indeed be higher in favor of Tom on a Pats board, but that doesn't make the view any less reasonable.
My view is that fans of other teams who are not raging Pats haters, and are objectively looking at Brady versus Rodgers, would easily rank Tom over Rodgers this season. I don't think it's even close. The percentages will indeed be higher in favor of Tom on a Pats board, but that doesn't make the view any less reasonable.
Fuck Rogers, he is overrated, need to be able to beat the likes of the Lions and Bears at home.
John Fox is a very conservative coach but man can that guy get a lot out of mediocre players. That Bears defense was putrid last year. McPhee has been a huge addition but other than that he coached up this group to respectability. Why Elway got rid of him is beyond me. Is anyone afraid of Kubiak?
John Fox is a very conservative coach but man can that guy get a lot out of mediocre players. That Bears defense was putrid last year. McPhee has been a huge addition but other than that he coached up this group to respectability. Why Elway got rid of him is beyond me. Is anyone afraid of Kubiak?
Kubiak can be expected to go with a sensible game plan that keeps Brock comfortably within an offense that he is better adapted to than Peyton -- and to restrain him from giving the game away like Romo did yesterday. Sixteen or so points could do it. Coaching mismatches matter most when one guy either habitually does stupid things, or can be baited into doing something stupid. Kubiak fits neither category.
Brady is a top-5 all-time QB having arguably* his best season. Not surprisingly, that makes him the best player in the league this season by a healthy margin. It's also something that no one, even here, thought we'd ever see again just 13 months ago.
*- He still has to finish, but I think this season is in the mix with 2006, 2007 and 2010.
*- He still has to finish, but I think this season is in the mix with 2006, 2007 and 2010.
I've been all over the internet, and this forum consistently produces the most intelligent football talk I can find.
Relax, man. Enjoy the ride.
Someone want alert the dopes that the Broncos pregame thread posts and the 1-32 thread posts are ending up in here somehow?
Dolphins/Jets and Rams/Bengals here at 1:00PM; yeah, no, thank God for The Red Zone.................
Giants and Eli go immediately back to doing Giants and Eli things now that they aren't facing the Pats.
And another fluky INT except this one was a horrible throw into double coverage that deserved an INT. Still, like you say, he never does this shit vs. NE.
But that one wasn't his fault either; when it comes to Eli, it's never his fault.