Patriots place Aaron Dobson on IR and sign S Dewey McDonald

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“@FieldYates: Source: the Patriots placed WR Aaron Dobson on IR and signed S Dewey McDonald.”
 

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“@jeffphowe: The Patriots determined Dobson’s high ankle sprain would have taken 6-8 weeks to recover, which led to the IR decision, per source.”
 

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Makes sense. They're already playing with a 52-man roster because of Edelman. Honestly, even if Dobson could have returned in 4 weeks I would have IRed him.
Even if it were 2 weeks it would have to be considered. He is extremely injury prone and barely good enough to even get on the field anyways.
 

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Meanwhile, Terrell Owens yearns for a tryout. I'd give him one. Would you?
 

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Hellz no. Are you willing only out of depth chart desperation?
Of course. We are desperate, TO is/was a HOF receiver, he claims he's no longer the wild man he used to be, he claims to be in shape and to understand what it means to sign up for the Patriots. What's to lose by giving him a tryout? If he still has some chops, he can at least distract the opposing secondary, freeing Gronk up more than he has been.
 

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I would hate to root for a team whose DC was distracted by a 41 yo Terrell Owens signing on with a team that runs one of the more complicated WR schemes; in week 12; off the street; when he hasn't even played in five years.

Because that team's defense must suck.
 

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No interest in TO, but would very much like the Pats to bring in someone for WR depth. Avery, Boykin, someone. Too bad Thompkins isnt still out there
 

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Reggie Wayne? I know he asked out after signing for 1 year but he's at least worth approaching again. We're 10 straight wins into the season and so a serious SB candidiate, and we are also more desperate for his services. Both might be enticements
 

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It seemed as though Reggie Wayne didn't want to do the work. If he didn't have the fire in the belly then, I doubt he's got it now.
 

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Well, the line was said to a 13 year old, so probably being old and rich and not getting broken in half by safeties?
 

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I think it was about busting his ass for a maybe 5th receiver situation. It might be different to him for a more certain 3rd receiver slot, but my guess is that if it was truly lack of drive l, it probably turned off BB.
 

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(This is kind of stating the obvious.)

We're actually discussing the need to sign old has-beens who have been out of the league to be the third receiver on a team that is 10-0 and a Super Bowl favorite. I know there are other examples of teams that succeed despite injury woes, but damn. We are very fortunate to be fans of this team, and it's amazing how well they do the whole playing football thing.
 

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Adding a safety rather than a WR implies they are reasonably confident that one of Amendola or Martin (or both of them) will be playing on Sunday, it would seem. At least, I hope that's the case.

Still, given their apparent depth at safety, and the fact that they are down a corner and have the horrendous Rashaan Melvin as technically the number 3, I thought it was a little bit curious that they did not pick up another CB. My guess is that they wanted the best DB (regardless of the corner/safety distinction) available, and that McDonald is that in their view. Their use of Wilson and Chung in the slot against the Bills is along similar lines (and was the right choice given how challenged Melvin is).
 

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Greg Salas was mentioned in a place or two over the last week. He is one guy still out there who presumably knows some of the offensive concepts and is kinda-sorta interesting as a name. Presumably, they've concluded he is not a useful piece of the puzzle, but interesting we haven't heard about him even as a try-out guy.
 

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So the $500 bet I have with someone here about Dobson not hitting 1500 rec yards as a patriot is looking pretty good.
 

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What?! Name please. Who took the other side of that action?
 

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Good for the charity.

In good fun, and charitable sprit, we need a sons of Bethel Johnson sub-thread, pinned. Put all the WR binkies in there.
 

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Good for the charity.

In good fun, and charitable sprit, we need a sons of Bethel Johnson sub-thread, pinned. Put all the WR binkies in there.
With two sub-categories:
1. All those who flashed some promise but never fulfilled. Bethel Johnson, Kenbrell Thompkins, et al.
2. Those who never did anything beyond college or pre-season. Josh Boyce, Chad Jackson, et al.
 

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Weird, my Dobson bet seems to have vanished from the Board. Apparently someone doesn't like the Jimmy Fund.
The only post I can find alluding to it is this one from Stich last year. I'm not certain the bet was with Stich and I do know it was for 1500 yards not 1K but either way it is odd that all discussion of this has disappeared as best as I can tell.

Im well aware of it, dont worry.

Someone here owes the Jimmy Fund $500 if Dobson gets to 1000 career yards as a Patriot so still looking good!

Actuallly still dont think Wilson gets cut given he plays so much on special teams and McCourty/Harmon/A Wilson/Chung/T Wilson/Ebner/Kanoris Davis is the is the safety depth chart.
 

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How about a third category -- binkies that never made it to the team?

I had two, Golden Tate and Robert Woods. Hell, I'd have won that 1500 yard bet with Woods. Brady would have made him a star.
 

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Greg Salas was mentioned in a place or two over the last week. He is one guy still out there who presumably knows some of the offensive concepts and is kinda-sorta interesting as a name. Presumably, they've concluded he is not a useful piece of the puzzle, but interesting we haven't heard about him even as a try-out guy.
I've been beating this drum for a while and obviously BB/McD think he's not worth a roster spot.

As mentioned before, a late-camp knee injury was the only thing that prevented him from being on an NFL roster. Unless he had problems picking up the playbook and was a "repeat" offender in his brief time with the Patriots, it is a bit puzzling (they traded a pick for him no less).
 

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How about a third category -- binkies that never made it to the team?

I had two, Golden Tate and Robert Woods. Hell, I'd have won that 1500 yard bet with Woods. Brady would have made him a star.
I feel the same way about Mohamed Sanu -- he has been good, but I think on the Patriots he would have been a rich man's LaFell and would have been fascinated to see the various ways Belichick used him.
I'm not sure Woods and Sanu are any better than Dobson - they've stayed healthier and had more opportunity, so they've produced more, but they've been pretty mediocre. I doubt either would have cracked the lineup over LaFell / Edelman last year and I'm not sure either would have been ahead of Amendola, either.

I've been beating this drum for a while and obviously BB/McD think he's not worth a roster spot.

As mentioned before, a late-camp knee injury was the only thing that prevented him from being on an NFL roster. Unless he had problems picking up the playbook and was a "repeat" offender in his brief time with the Patriots, it is a bit puzzling (they traded a pick for him no less).
Salas could still be hurt. He did flash a bit on the Jets last year. As far as the Pats go, he was on the practice squad for two months three years ago, so it's not like he spent a ton of time in the system. He did work with McDaniels in St. Louis, I guess. Luring Austin Collie out of the CFL (Collie was on the Pats more recently and more effectively) probably makes as much sense.
 

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Lots of good suggestions in this thread. I'm also hopeful that Chris Harper gets a shot, and starting this Sunday. He has a lot of talent including quickness, running after the catch, separation, and experience as a slot receiver. He also has some ability to go deep. He obviously has flaws as well or wouldn't have been a free agent but over a short stretch, could flash some Edelman-lite type production
 

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I'm aware of it and it's 100 percent 1000 yards, not 1500 yards (well I'm not going to say 100 percent but that's what I've had marked down for years unless it's a different bet)

He's at 731 I'm still live if he makes the team next year. Too bad he broke might have locked it up this year
 
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I'm not sure Woods and Sanu are any better than Dobson - they've stayed healthier and had more opportunity, so they've produced more, but they've been pretty mediocre. I doubt either would have cracked the lineup over LaFell / Edelman last year and I'm not sure either would have been ahead of Amendola, either.


Salas could still be hurt. He did flash a bit on the Jets last year. As far as the Pats go, he was on the practice squad for two months three years ago, so it's not like he spent a ton of time in the system. He did work with McDaniels in St. Louis, I guess. Luring Austin Collie out of the CFL (Collie was on the Pats more recently and more effectively) probably makes as much sense.
BC isn't in the Gray Cup, so you'd think Collie would be available...
 

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Weird, my Dobson bet seems to have vanished from the Board. Apparently someone doesn't like the Jimmy Fund.
Yeah, we usually delete charity bets because we hate kids and the disadvantaged.

There are a bunch of older posts that were archived and not imported. We'll be getting those in as soon as we can, hopefully in the next week or two. If things go right, we might eventually get the old ezboard posts in as well.

(That probably comes off harsher than it's meant to, it's supposed to be light-hearted. But stuff that was previously archived is out of commission indefinitly until we get it sorted).
 

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I couldn't watch Collie. If he got Keenum'd he'd be dead. Like literally dead.

I agree from a pure football standpoint he may be the best of a sorry bunch, but when he goes across the middle I'll have to turn away.
 

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I found a cached version of the bet, from the 2013 Preseason Game 4 Giants thread.

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So we aren't allowed to judge someone based on what we see? Taylor Price never showed anything and ended up with 81 career yds receiving, 41 with the pats.

At what point are we allowed to question players the pats pick? I

I'm willing to put my $$ where my mouth is so if anyone wants to make a contribution to the Jimmy Fund I'm setting Dobson career yds receiving as a Patriot at 1000. That should be easy for a 2nd rd pick that is all but guaranteed to be on the roster for at least 3 yrs. I'm taking the under and I'll go up to $500 in any combination (5X 100, 1X 500, 10X 50 etc.) again I hope to lose the bet but I doubt I will.
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Booked for $500.

I think I have the best of it based on recent 2nd round history, but its not a horrible line. I basically need Dobson to one David Givens like season. I think I'll get that in yearv2 or 3
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If Dobson has a Given's like career that will be fantastic. I look at this as a bet I can't really lose since the $$ goes to a good cause and it will mean the Patriots actually drafted a productive WR which hasn't happened since Branch/Givens. Though I guess Dobson could simply have an Edelman like career and also get to 1K yards which is where Edelman should get this year.
Just to be clear it doesn't have to be on his rookie deal but it does have to be in a Patriot uni. If he gets traded/cut and goes somewhere else and hits 1K that doesn't count.
So basically Dobson could leave this offseason, then come back and play with Jimmy G in 2025 for a couple 1,000 yard seasons and it would still count.
 

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I didn't realize that Dobson even had ~700 yards. Feels like he's been healthy for the grand total of 1/2 season.
 

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I didn't realize that Dobson even had ~700 yards. Feels like he's been healthy for the grand total of 1/2 season.
He really gets a bum rap around here. He was decent as a rookie and he's been hurt. I think there's something about his playing style (long striding guy who makes tough catches in traffic but isn't explosive or quick, his height and lack of quickness probably make it look like he isn't trying) that just irritates the hell out of folks.

EDIT: Honestly there should be a category for "mediocre pats players who were irrationally hated." Marcus Cannon, Hooman, Dobson, Ellis Hobbs, Ben Watson--there are just a bunch who range from low level starters to high level backups who Pats fans just utterly despise for no reason other than that they're not much better.
 
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