Watching the Jones: Dazed & Confused
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Slater has seemed to take a small injury in the last 3/4 games. We all know next man up and that, but if he is nursing minor injuries I hope they dont over-extend him.
They appeared to be limiting Vollmer last nite until Stork had to take over at C. So BB does appear to perhaps sometimes recognize injuries.
Yeah, looking at the stats out there, the Pats remaining opponents average an Off. DVOA rank of 22.7 (compared to 14 for the teams they've already played), PPG rank of 21.5 (vs. 16.4 for the teams they've already faced), and average 21.3 vs. 22.8 PPG. By pretty much any measure you like, the Pats defense will face a much easier slate moving forward, with the Jets being the best offense they will see, and the Broncos, Texans, and Titans considered among the worst in the NFL.
This is because you think BB plays more games with the injury report than he does? I'll bet Dobson doesn't fly to Denver and is ruled out on Saturday. At this point I'd take questionable from Amendola up until game time because that would indicate he's close.
I also disagree somewhat on some of the Dobson assessments from earlier in the thread. He has been a contributor at times, most notably late in the season in 2013. He had a pretty big game earlier this year. He's flashed the ability to make catches in competitive situations. He is clearly fourth on the depth chart when everyone is healthy at this point and he's always hurt, but he's not talentless. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he went somewhere and had a LaFell in '14 type mini breakout if he somehow didn't hurt himself.
Jeff Howe @jeffphowe 3m3 minutes ago
Danny Amendola suffered a knee sprain and seems to be good for Denver, per source. @tomecurran first to report.
Danny Amendola suffered a knee sprain and seems to be good for Denver, per source. @tomecurran first to report.
Hey, I was going to call my fantasy team "Tavon Wilson Fan Club," but it didn't fit. (J/K, #1 choice was "Kyle Arrington Fan Club")
Belichick tends to be pretty consistent. If a guy doesn't practice all week, they'll just list him as Out. If he's limited in practice all week, most of the time he'll be listed as Questionable and there won't be much information as to whether he's actually going to suit up or not until the day of.
On the other hand if they lose one now, and have just one loss going into the last two games, and have home field wrapped up, I don't believe BB would go "all out" to win those last two. I'd expect to see Brady go no more than a half, possibly a quarter in each. As far r Gronk, it might be like the pre-season, not playing at all. Every player nursing an injury should probably sit out to.
I don't see Belichick doing that for 2 games with Brady. You can't put the QB on the shelf for a month and expect him to come into the playoffs and play well.
I'd expect week 16 is business as usual and a repeat of week 17 from last year.
As far as Gronk i agree he will get the kids glove treatment.
Both of these injuries look pretty minor then I guess. Does anyone know just how much of the Costco chicken salad Collins ate?
I agree. In week 17 last year Brady played the first half, throwing 16 times. Gronk did not play at all.
Id bet a lot of money they play everyone healthy active and in their full role (or close to it) in week 16 if they have everything wrapped up whether the team is undefeated or not. They wont push injured guys and maybe Gronk plays like 2/3 the snaps he normally does or something, but Id be shocked if they rest regulars.
I haven't seen any reports of 1-4 from the generally trusted sources, so we'll see if that's indeed the case.
I don't see BB punting on a game, like week 17 of last year, if they are still undefeated. I just can't see that happening. That's not really BB's style.
Count me in the Dobson is solid depth category, not entirely fungible. Obviously he has limits but he knows the system, seems to have good hands and, no, doesn't get great separation but clearly has a role for BB in certain situations ahead of Jo Jo. Losing the #4 receiver when your top two guy are already out is a blow -- here's hoping he can come back to contribute, as now the injury reports seem to imply.
I think people always had unreasonable expectations for Dobson. I think there is still a chance that Dobson could be a quality NFL receiver, but he was never going to be star or a guy that would consistently beat #1 CBs in this league. I think his ceiling was always something along the line of what you expect production wise from LaFell. He hasn't been able to stay healthy enough to get to that level and would probably be most effective in this offense in the role that LaFell plays. I'd be curious to see him in a Joe Flacco type offense or any offense that has the WRs going vertical much more often than the Pats.
Reiss on ESPN Boston site:
"Here in Patriots locker room for media access and there are signs that LB Jamie Collins is present; a backpack at his locker and unfolded chair. Collins has missed the last three games with an undisclosed illness."
"Here in Patriots locker room for media access and there are signs that LB Jamie Collins is present; a backpack at his locker and unfolded chair. Collins has missed the last three games with an undisclosed illness."
NESN says Amendola participated in the walkthough practice with "what looked like a knee brace."
Collins, Dobson, and Slater did not participate.
Collins, Dobson, and Slater did not participate.
He's not the one with $50 riding on it. I'm sad to say my 3-plus year long bet with Stitch is about to end, though I'm happy to give it if Wilson can actually provide a benefit to the team playing Inside Linebacker.
I would have thought the same thing until Belichick bubble-wrapped Edelman and Gronk in the preseason. If they're 14-0 heading into the Jets game and have clinched the 1 seed, I think he's resting players. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't, though.
Per source, Patriots LB Dont'a Hightower is believed to have suffered an MCL sprain last night in Denver.
Dianna Marie Russini @diannaESPN 9m9 minutes ago
Dont'a Hightower is also week to week with a knee injury. He will be evaluated later this week per sources #Patriots
Dont'a Hightower is also week to week with a knee injury. He will be evaluated later this week per sources #Patriots
Ben Volin @BenVolin 1m1 minute ago
#Patriots injury news isn’t all bad. Hearing that Jamie Collins plans to play Sunday after missing last four games with mystery illness
#Patriots injury news isn’t all bad. Hearing that Jamie Collins plans to play Sunday after missing last four games with mystery illness
It's only a mystery to you, Ben. I'm sure everyone involved knows exactly what it is.
I'm watching Hightower's injury with as much if not more concern as Gronk's. Not that he's Gronk's equal in overall value, but with Hightower and Collins healthy, this defense will be everything I dreamed on during the pre-season: love the line, the safeties, and even the top 2 CBs. It's all coming together nicely, but they need the Hightower/Collins anchor (which is not to diminish that I thought Freeny and Mayo were heroic against the Broncos...heroic but limited).
I assume Collins will still be weak this week -- but if he can play I'm guessing that'll mean he'll be in fine form by the playoffs.
I assume Collins will still be weak this week -- but if he can play I'm guessing that'll mean he'll be in fine form by the playoffs.
Like a guy off the DL, he's probably regaining both regular strength and playing strength -- he hasn't seen actual game action in a while, so I would be surprised if he goes wire-to-wire against Philly.
Hopefully by next week against Houston he'll be ready to rock.
Perhaps wrong thread, but we focused on LBers recently. What is up w Bostic? Not that good? Learning the system?
Someone asked this on F&M yesterday with Greg Bedard sitting in. He said the knock on Bostic in Chicago was terrible instincts. Couldn't get himself in the right position to make a play. Bedard said he's hearing the Patriots are seeing the same problems and that's keeping him from getting regular reps even with the recent injuries.
From Globe beat reporter Jim McBride. Injury updates on Hightower and Coleman
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/12/02/bill-belichick-discusses-new-aquisitions-for-patriots/lRvwLyXWfxP9zi0TBFUf2L/story.html
I'm not imagining this case of deja vu, right?
Wasn't Brady seen galavanting around NYC with Gisele in 2007, sans walking boot, right before the Super Bowl?
Wasn't Brady seen galavanting around NYC with Gisele in 2007, sans walking boot, right before the Super Bowl?