View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0PEEuPrjiMI know that CP3 has a bit of a rep for this stuff. We must have a gif from a guy with 16 years in the league that's not from college.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0PEEuPrjiMI know that CP3 has a bit of a rep for this stuff. We must have a gif from a guy with 16 years in the league that's not from college.
Heck, even this playoffs he was clearly trying to deliberately injure LBJ on a play (and they're buds). I admire the hell out of CP3 and he was flat great last night and has a great career. But this isn't an isolated college incident -- something in his DNA makes him lose control too often on the court. Combined with his flops it puts a bit of a stain on him for me even if no hesitation in recognizing how great he is. He's definitely not a Pat Bev who is way dirtier and way, way worse. Still don't get the denialism, though, about both CP3 and Pat Bev's dirtiness. Obviously part of both of their games and the idea that's part of why we should root for them is just lame. Pushes in the back, punches in the nuts are not winning basketball. They are defects in players, be that player great or bad.I know that CP3 has a bit of a rep for this stuff. We must have a gif from a guy with 16 years in the league that's not from college.
I think it’s just that the finals could possibly go until the 22nd, and then he’d have to play for team USA in the 25th. Playing a full season, a full playoffs all the way through the finals, and an Olympic tournament is a long grind with no breakIs age the reason Jrue going to Tokyo and not CP3?
CP3 and Dray on the same team could sell a lot of cups otherwise
The 2018 draft is looking insanely good at the top with Ayton, Trae and Luka all looking like stars. Yet somehow the Kings drafted 2nd and ended up with a total bust in Bagley, which is why they are the Kings.As of two days ago Deandre Ayton could have missed his next 20 shots and still have the highest fg% ever for a playoff run. Then he went 8/10. Just insane
Bagley was a freshman in high school when I was a junior, and went to a high school like 25 mins away. My basketball team and I would go watch him play occasionally and he was just insane. Then he went to duke who I root for (parents met there) and I was convinced he was gonna be a starThe 2018 draft is looking insanely good at the top with Ayton, Trae and Luka all looking like stars. Yet somehow the Kings drafted 2nd and ended up with a total bust in Bagley, which is why they are the Kings.
And it is not just those 3. Simmons and Russilo did a redraft on a recent pod. Neither had Bagley in the top 10, and that's hardly a hot take. In addition to Luka, Trae and Ayton you have SGA, Porter, JJJ, Mikal Bridges and Sexton. Would you rather have Bagley or Kevin Huerter ? Miles Bridges? Grayson Allen? Timelord? Mitchell Robinson?The 2018 draft is looking insanely good at the top with Ayton, Trae and Luka all looking like stars. Yet somehow the Kings drafted 2nd and ended up with a total bust in Bagley, which is why they are the Kings.
He's trying his hardest to get traded and they refuse. He's been hurt a ton, but he's had some flashes.The 2018 draft is looking insanely good at the top with Ayton, Trae and Luka all looking like stars. Yet somehow the Kings drafted 2nd and ended up with a total bust in Bagley, which is why they are the Kings.
I'm not questioning the dirty rep at all. I don't really follow stuff like that and take folks word for it generally (here anyway). Just thought it was funny that the clip posted was at least 16 years ago. Then another clip was posted with like 5 NBA ball punches.Heck, even this playoffs he was clearly trying to deliberately injure LBJ on a play (and they're buds). I admire the hell out of CP3 and he was flat great last night and has a great career. But this isn't an isolated college incident -- something in his DNA makes him lose control too often on the court. Combined with his flops it puts a bit of a stain on him for me even if no hesitation in recognizing how great he is. He's definitely not a Pat Bev who is way dirtier and way, way worse. Still don't get the denialism, though, about both CP3 and Pat Bev's dirtiness. Obviously part of both of their games and the idea that's part of why we should root for them is just lame. Pushes in the back, punches in the nuts are not winning basketball. They are defects in players, be that player great or bad.
Would Bagley’s salary ($11,312,114) fit into what’s left of the Hayward trade exception (I’ve seen both $28.5 and $28.6M) after the Fournier acquisition (reported as $17/17.15/17.45M)?He's trying his hardest to get traded and they refuse. He's been hurt a ton, but he's had some flashes.
Precisely.I'm not questioning the dirty rep at all. I don't really follow stuff like that and take folks word for it generally (here anyway). Just thought it was funny that the clip posted was at least 16 years ago. Then another clip was posted with like 5 NBA ball punches.
I don't care about the flops. For the life of me I'll never understand why people lump nutshots and flops into the same category (or post). Frankly, if I were a mid tier NBA player or worse like Bev or Smart and played guys like Trae, Joel, and Harden that you can't fucking breathe on without them getting 14 FTA a game, I'd use that tool from my toolbox at every opportunity (flopping). Stars hate it, so what.
Sportrac has it at 11.05 left overWould Bagley’s salary ($11,312,114) fit into what’s left of the Hayward trade exception (I’ve seen both $28.5 and $28.6M) after the Fournier acquisition (reported as $17/17.15/17.45M)?
Yeah, I think Luka/Trae are in an elite class as top guys ready to lead a team far right now, and Ayton is a different type of player who isn't maybe as offensively gifted as Luka/Trae but is clearly good enough to be a key player on a title team. SGA has been great so far in his career, MPJ and JJJ have franchise player potential. Sexton just averaged 24 ppg on decent efficiency and he didn't even crack the Top 10 of their redraft.And it is not just those 3. Simmons and Russilo did a redraft on a recent pod. Neither had Bagley in the top 10, and that's hardly a hot take. In addition to Luka, Trae and Ayton you have SGA, Porter, JJJ, Mikal Bridges and Sexton. Would you rather have Bagley or Kevin Huerter ? Miles Bridges? Grayson Allen? Timelord? Mitchell Robinson?
Totally fair -- you're right that I equated them, forgetting that generally I make your very point -- I'm so confused I forget to even agree with myself! Even last night with CP3's obvious flop, it is true that Cousins did unnecessarily throw out his elbow even if it didn't hit Paul, so deserved that T he got...and certainly that T wouldn't have been called if CP3 hadn't dramatized it....
I don't care about the flops. For the life of me I'll never understand why people lump nutshots and flops into the same category (or post). Frankly, if I were a mid tier NBA player or worse like Bev or Smart and played guys like Trae, Joel, and Harden that you can't fucking breathe on without them getting 14 FTA a game, I'd use that tool from my toolbox at every opportunity (flopping). Stars hate it, so what.
I mean you can't really plan for injuries. If Bagley hadn't had all those knee injuries I would far rather have him than all but a handful of guys from '18. But bad luck's a thing.And it is not just those 3. Simmons and Russilo did a redraft on a recent pod. Neither had Bagley in the top 10, and that's hardly a hot take. In addition to Luka, Trae and Ayton you have SGA, Porter, JJJ, Mikal Bridges and Sexton. Would you rather have Bagley or Kevin Huerter ? Miles Bridges? Grayson Allen? Timelord? Mitchell Robinson?
Thanks for the confirmation. I guess that, as with the Kemba trade, a Bagley acquisition would need to happen during the current NBA fiscal year. Get it done, Theo!Sportrac has it at 11.05 left over
Trade Exception $28,500,000
($11,050,000) Gordon Hayward trade with CHA, (Evan Fournier, $17,450,000) 11/29/2021
Shooting 23-51 (.451) from deep so far, with a chance at a 40/50/90 postseason. Good excuse to post this all time great draft interview, Coby White knew...He didn't play last night but I'm happy for Cameron Johnson. The Suns took a ton of shit from everyone for taking a player that old at #11 two years ago, but he has been a great role player for them who plays really smart basketball on both ends of the floor. It's nice seeing someone who played 5 years of college basketball proving the dratniks wrong.
You have to set an active roster before the game.Why do teams "officially" have to rule players out? Like what would happen if they "officially" rule Trae out and then late in the fourth quarter, needing a three, they bring him into the game? In the NFL if a player is listed as "out" he is not allowed to play. Is there some rule in the NBA? And if so, why would you ever "officially" rule Trae out? Why not say, we don't expect him to play but in an emergency it's possible?
Wow Bro!Shooting 23-51 (.451) from deep so far, with a chance at a 40/50/90 postseason. Good excuse to post this all time great draft interview, Coby White knew...
View: https://youtu.be/XukBLPLh-rQ
Thanks...helpful. So the question is....weighing risk vs reward...is it better to keep Young active in the very off chance you’ll use him in the last minute of a close game, or better to keep your 12th man - who you won’t use at all except in the case of a blowout - active?You have to set an active roster before the game.
Since the NBA started getting into bed with gambling, they have been serious about injury reports and have fined teams for not being honest.
The whole thread here surrounding Beverly has got pretty twisted and has kind of changed from what the original argument was.Precisely.
Patrick Beverley is "dirty" and nobody is defending his actions - but there is a reason that he will have made $64mm playing in the NBA after his current contract expires and played in big playoff games, guarding superstar players after clawing his way into the league at age 24.
People may not like it but there is a market for his skillset in the NBA and if these last few rounds have shown anything, its that there is significant value in a player who can do whatever it takes to muck up opposing players games and sets. I understand some tactics are too far but if my goal is winning, I am taking those players on my side as they can be very effective depending on the context. Again, I get that others hate this part of the sport and don't think its necessary. However there is a reason these guys are not only getting paid but also run.
I mentioned this in the betting thread. Classic exhale game after the overachieving effort without their star.Atlanta is struggling mightily here and its not all the Bucks D - they are missing quite a few open looks and easy takes.
Good call. I would just assume that being on the road without their best player would make winning this game a tall order. If both Giannis and Trae sit on Saturday, I would expect Atlanta to win at home but its simply my lazy analysis.I mentioned this in the betting thread. Classic exhale game after the overachieving effort without their star.
Yes, good call.I mentioned this in the betting thread. Classic exhale game after the overachieving effort without their star.
Lopez def becomes a factor without Trae but Giannis’ absence also allows Jrue to be much more involved in the offense which makes up for a lot of what Giannis brings on many (not all, but many) nights.Yes, good call.
I didn't watch the game but I assume that one thing that really helps MIL is that Lopez is a lot more playable against ATL without Trae Young.
Yeah, this is completely insane. Never seen a conference finals remotely close to this. The healthy Wizards would be favored over either of these two, right?Talk about Mickey Mouse championships, no team has ever had an easier path to a ring than what the suns are looking at this year.
If Brown doesn't get hurt there's a decent chance the Celtics are playing in the NBA finalsYeah, this is completely insane. Never seen a conference finals remotely close to this. The healthy Wizards would be favored over either of these two, right?
If they had the same path as the Suns, sure. Against a healthy Nets team (and they were healthy for round 1), they wouldn't have had more than a puncher's chance even if Brown/Kemba/TL were all healthy.If Brown doesn't get hurt there's a decent chance the Celtics are playing in the NBA finals