This would put them over the tax unless they send out salary elsewhere, correct? I will like this deal significantly less if they can't stay under the tax here for an expiring deal.
This approach makes no sense at all. It's also pretty much exactly how I feel.I have come around to hoping Danny blows it up and reshuffles. I would be fine with literally anyone being traded other than TimeLord, which I know is irrational, but he's just so damn entertaining to watch.
Something just isn't right about the current roster, the sum seems much less than the parts, and it's hard to see how it improves as currently constructed. I think there needs to be at least some addition by subtraction.
Staple Kemba to them first!Things are starting to move now
View: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1375109738552307715?s=20
Thompson would make more sense to move you'd think.Hmmmmm. I would be surprised if they sent Theis out without a plan to add another big who can space the floor.
Theis on the Lakers is an MVP candidate.Theis will go to a team where he finally gets a favorable whistle and become a top 5 player in the league
Are they?Dammit I really wanted Vucevic but didn’t think it was possible that he’d be moved now. Celtics can’t really compete with that offer anyways since Bulls 1sts are more valuable.
If you think Theis actually stretches the floor, yeah. I'd trade whichever gives the best return as I don't think it makes much a difference. CBS is close to freeing TL.Thompson would make more sense to move you'd think.
Yeah, Theis' floor-stretching is mostly theoretical; I wouldn't let that be a holdup.If you think Theis actually stretches the floor, yeah. I'd trade whichever gives the best return as I don't think it makes much a difference. CBS is close to freeing TL.
I'd actually try to acquire a PG with some size and look into trading Smart but time might be running out on that.
Ugh. I’d rather have Gordon than Smart. Wonder if Danny ever dangled him.
Try to trade for Ball or Lauri.Now that Gordon is off the table, is there anything else Danny can do other than a small deal to jettison some of the crap off our bench?
Collins deal still doable, but sounding like that ship has sailed. A deal centered around Smart and 1sts would make a lot of sense both ways though.Try to trade for Ball or Lauri.
Are you willing to max Collins though? That's a ton of salary if we're talking about Tatum, Brown, Kemba, a re-signed Fournier and Collins on a max. If I'm Wyc there's no way I'm paying that tax bill for a roster that's not a guaranteed finals contender.Collins deal still doable, but sounding like that ship has sailed. A deal centered around Smart and 1sts would make a lot of sense both ways though.
It only works if they could flip Kemba. There's probably a way to make it work trading Smart, TT and gutting the rest of the roster too but I'd have to look more into it.Are you willing to max Collins though? That's a ton of salary if we're talking about Tatum, Brown, Kemba, a re-signed Fournier and Collins on a max. If I'm Wyc there's no way I'm paying that tax bill for a roster that's not a guaranteed finals contender.
Yeah, the intention there would clearly be to flip Kemba.It only works if they could flip Kemba. There's probably a way to make it work trading Smart, TT and gutting the rest of the roster too but I'd have to look more into it.
Yep. Time Lord is clearly one of the top two centers now.I'm happy with the Theis trade as addition by subtraction (more TL, less 2-big). TL makes him mostly redundant, and you still have TT to bang with the big boys. Solid deal.
Rolling Theis into a cheap depth center, rather than just dumping, is also nice.Yep. Time Lord is clearly one of the top two centers now.
Talent-wise, he's definitely in the "keeper" category so I award points to the 26% who made that voteSo which category does today fall into? Keeper? And maybe one "throw back" in Wagner?
The consensus seems to be that Ainge made a modest upgrade to the wing rotation; maybe more than modest given who was in that rotation. Either way, he addressed the roster's biggest shortcoming. The cost:
a.) Loss of their starting C. Not a huge deal given that I think RWill and TT can both fill in admirably. Less depth at the position, but Stevens was already having difficulty with the depth they did have.
b.) Loss of one of their veteran backup PG, one who was indeed playing better recently. But the dropoff to Pritchard isn't that huge. It could be a problem if Kemba needs to miss a lot of time, but the team is screwed anyway in that case.
c.) Loss of some of the TPE. The rules around sign-and-trades were always going to make the full TPE difficult to use, and it wasn't quite enough for the "white whale" anyway.
d.) A couple of fungible 2nd round draft picks that are easily replaced.
e.) Some end of bench flotsam/jetsam in Green.
Seems like a solid B grade to me.
For point (d), they are going to have to deal Fournier or Smart if they acquire an impact guy in the summer, so I don't even really count that as a negative. If anything, it makes it easier to go whale hunting.So which category does today fall into? Keeper? And maybe one "throw back" in Wagner?
The consensus seems to be that Ainge made a modest upgrade to the wing rotation; maybe more than modest given who was in that rotation. Either way, he addressed the roster's biggest shortcoming. The cost:
a.) Loss of their starting C. Not a huge deal given that I think RWill and TT can both fill in admirably. Less depth at the position, but Stevens was already having difficulty with the depth they did have.
b.) Loss of one of their veteran backup PG, one who was indeed playing better recently. But the dropoff to Pritchard isn't that huge. It could be a problem if Kemba needs to miss a lot of time, but the team is screwed anyway in that case.
c.) Loss of some of the TPE. The rules around sign-and-trades were always going to make the full TPE difficult to use, and it wasn't quite enough for the "white whale" anyway.
d.) A couple of fungible 2nd round draft picks that are easily replaced.
e.) Some end of bench flotsam/jetsam in Green.
Seems like a solid B grade to me.
lol Twitter
Wrong answer, but keep up the quality, in-depth posting.I sense this was Ainge doing something so he could say he did something.
Chairs
Shuffling
Titanic
We'll see.Wrong answer, but keep up the quality, in-depth posting.
The funny thing is that there is tons of shit that Danny should take for the past 3 years. People focus on literally the only thing he's nailed as a negative. People are dumb.Lol umm...
Kawhi, George, Davis and.... Myles F'n Turner?
Turner isn't really any better than Fournier either.
If he does chafe, he's a $12M expiring.I think this was about the best we could hope for. A real shake up to see if you can somehow change the mix and get meaningful improvement but not much of a mortgaging of the future on what is probably not an actual contender. You may have considered just waiting for the summer but the situation is getting pretty toxic and a few more months of the status quo may have created more problems than they solve.
Smart may become a real problem though. He may see a smaller role and I hope he doesn’t chafe
If Smart really cares about winning, he should be happy to slide back into a more defense and distribute first role. That’s what he’s good at.I think this was about the best we could hope for. A real shake up to see if you can somehow change the mix and get meaningful improvement but not much of a mortgaging of the future on what is probably not an actual contender. You may have considered just waiting for the summer but the situation is getting pretty toxic and a few more months of the status quo may have created more problems than they solve.
Smart may become a real problem though. He may see a smaller role and I hope he doesn’t chafe
I do feel like over the last several years Danny has taken more shit in the media and on twitter over the last few years than in previous years. But, I'm sure if twitter had existed when he traded Antoine and made the moves that led to the title, people would have been shitting their pants back then as well.The funny thing is that there is tons of shit that Danny should take for the past 3 years. People focus on literally the only thing he's nailed as a negative. People are dumb.
Pretty much this....
I wonder if it's a backlash to all of the "Danny is fleecing other teams" stuff, there's always an impulse in the media/social media/the hot take economy to like try to say someone is overrated or in decline as early as possible, I guess (see Max Kellerman re: Tom Brady). I just want these people to tell me who the better GMs are that are out GMing Danny and winning championships with all of their awesome GMing. Pat Riley? Masai? Is the conclusion I'm supposed to draw from yesterday that Danny is a bad GM because he didn't want to push all his chips in for Aaron Gordon?
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