Well if Steelers are 11-5, Browns win the division unless the Browns lose to the Jets tomorrow. Steelers have clinched a playoff spot.What if Pitt is also 11-5
Well if Steelers are 11-5, Browns win the division unless the Browns lose to the Jets tomorrow. Steelers have clinched a playoff spot.What if Pitt is also 11-5
the browns are down a bunch of WRs to Jesters tomorrow so still likely to win but not as obvious as it was before the plague hit themWell if Steelers are 11-5, Browns win the division unless the Browns lose to the Jets tomorrow. Steelers have clinched a playoff spot.
The counter is that a TD plus a two pointer (a 50/50 proposition) puts LV up seven, meaning they’re likely to be at worst in a tie if MIA scores a TD off a possession that starts with about 1:02 left and no TO. You likely need several catastrophic plays, or a Hail Mary, for that to happen.I’m surprised people are ripping Gruden. Running down the clock was the right play. I’m sure whatever scheme the defensive staff called didn’t call for a receiver to be left wide open along the sideline. And even if that happened, they probably survive without the inexcusable roughing penalty. It wasn’t a coaching fail; it was just a colossal failure to execute.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machineIs there a web page for nfl playoffs tiebreaker scenarios? Not the rules, I found that, but something like the nba trade machines
I'm not sure it's the right play.I’m surprised people are ripping Gruden. Running down the clock was the right play. I’m sure whatever scheme the defensive staff called didn’t call for a receiver to be left wide open along the sideline. And even if that happened, they probably survive without the inexcusable roughing penalty. It wasn’t a coaching fail; it was just a colossal failure to execute.
It’s now happened twice in a month under his watch. He’s getting paid $100 million to not lose games like this.I’m surprised people are ripping Gruden. Running down the clock was the right play. I’m sure whatever scheme the defensive staff called didn’t call for a receiver to be left wide open along the sideline. And even if that happened, they probably survive without the inexcusable roughing penalty. It wasn’t a coaching fail; it was just a colossal failure to execute.
The poor Browns, they could up with their best record since the Civil War and still miss the playoffs.If MIA/BAL/CLE are 11-5, Cleveland is eliminated. If it’s just MIA/BAL, then Miami goes to the playoffs. Baltimore could still get in at 11-5 as long as the Colts or Browns lose once or Titans lose twice.
Buffalo has the tiebreaker over Pittsburgh.
It’s probably pretty close. Considering the defense had surrendered 75 yards on 3 plays the last time it was on the field, I would’ve opted to make them hold the fort for the shortest possible time. I certainly agree that reasonable opinion can differ.I'm not sure it's the right play.
I would guess that 1 minute or less to go 65 yards and score a TD with no TOs is a lower probability occurrence for an NFL team than going 35-45 yards and kicking a FG in 19 seconds
The clincher to me is the fact LV could plausibly go up 7 if they score a TD from the one.It’s probably pretty close. Considering the defense had surrendered 75 yards on 3 plays the last time it was on the field, I would’ve opted to make them hold the fort for the shortest possible time. I certainly agree that reasonable opinion can differ.
Totally legit to say it’s on Gruden for not creating a better culture over the past three years. I was reacting to the criticism of his tactical choices, which I thought were fine. This isn’t Gregg Williams calling an all-out blitz with 10 seconds left, or even BB putting Gronk at free safety on that hook-and-ladder play in Miami a couple years ago.It’s now happened twice in a month under his watch. He’s getting paid $100 million to not lose games like this.
The scheme on the pass play was bad too tho. The corner on Hollins stopped to pick up a back in the flat that was non existent. He should’ve passed him off to the safety further down the field.Totally legit to say it’s on Gruden for not creating a better culture over the past three years. I was reacting to the criticism of his tactical choices, which I thought were fine. This isn’t Gregg Williams calling an all-out blitz with 10 seconds left, or even BB putting Gronk at free safety on that hook-and-ladder play in Miami a couple years ago.
This is where I am. At the very least, I try and score on third down and kick the FG on 4th. A 2 point lead is not enough in the NFL to be avoiding the end zone like it’s COVID.With kickoffs at the 25 yard line the receiving team is literally 1 play from field goal range at any given time...there's almost no scenario anymore where I'd ever play for less than a 3 point lead and this is exactly why. Not running at the 1 there is indefensible imo.
How do you run cover 2 in a Hailmary situation? Like who TF cares if a back catches a check down and picks up 10?The scheme on the pass play was bad too tho. The corner on Hollins stopped to pick up a back in the flat that was non existent. He should’ve passed him off to the safety further down the field.
I’m assuming that’s execution. No way is the corner supposed to be coming up to defend the flat there.The scheme on the pass play was bad too tho. The corner on Hollins stopped to pick up a back in the flat that was non existent. He should’ve passed him off to the safety further down the field.
The thing about Fitz-magic is it can quickly turn into Fitz-tragic. Flores used him in the right spot. The 4th quarter of a must win game to spark the offense. Starting him in Week 17 and possibly the playoffs is asking for trouble.If Fitz doesn’t start, Flores should be fired
I think the fact that you could go up by 7 with the 2 pt conversion makes it a clear better option to try and score the TD, that means the arguably harder task is to get a tie not a win.It’s probably pretty close. Considering the defense had surrendered 75 yards on 3 plays the last time it was on the field, I would’ve opted to make them hold the fort for the shortest possible time. I certainly agree that reasonable opinion can differ.
yeah and it was in the mud and lots of itSayers' 6-TD game featured one pass reception and one punt return. He and Dub Jones share the record at 6 all-purpose TDs in one game.
it was reported on NFLN that Flores said Tua is starting next week.The thing about Fitz-magic is it can quickly turn into Fitz-tragic. Flores used him in the right spot. The 4th quarter of a must win game to spark the offense. Starting him in Week 17 and possibly the playoffs is asking for trouble.
I’m assuming that’s execution. No way is the corner supposed to be coming up to defend the flat there.
19 seconds with no timeouts? No way. You're asking the other team to gain 40 yards AND stop the clock when the entire defense knows that BOTH of those things need to happen in basically 1 play or the game is over. That should pretty much never ever happen.I'm not sure it's the right play.
I would guess that 1 minute or less to go 65 yards and score a TD with no TOs is a lower probability occurrence for an NFL team than going 35-45 yards and kicking a FG in 19 seconds
He's a quarterback who actually critiques Quarterbacks. Nice to see / hear.I enjoyed Kurt Warner's work on last night's game - I'd like to see him as a regular color commentator on Fox or CBS.
If I were coaching, I would want the scenario where if I score a TD and get the 2 point conversion the worst thing that could happen is overtime. Even if they don't get the 2 pt conversion, they have to score a TD to beat me with no timeouts and a little less than 1 minute left. In the era of the passing league and how the refs call pass interference(as we saw on that drive), it does not take much to get into FG range especially considering they are playing in perfect weather conditions with a kicker who has been money all year long. Even a non-crazy play that gets the ball to the 40 when it did last night they still only have to get 5 more yards for a decent FG attempt. I said it to my father in law as we were watching the game last night that they were making a mistake by not scoring a TD at the 1 yard line. Sure, if you want to waste the clock by doing what they did up until that point that's all well and good. That is smart. But, at the 1 yard line you really should try to score the TD. People argue that the FG eliminates the risk of a fumble. What about a bad snap for the FG or a blocked kick? I'd argue there is just as big of a risk that something could happen there also.You gotta try to score. If we stipulate it’s even odds between going 75 yards in a minute and 35 yards in 20 seconds, you definitely go for the scenario where half the time it’s to maintain a 1 point lead as opposed to 100% where it’s to face a 1 point deficit.
Agree very much with this - he had some Romo-like instincts and observations without Romo’s goofiness/over-excitement. My guess is if Warner wanted to be a regular commentator he’d be one already, though - have to guess he doesn’t want to deal with the travel, etc. throughout an entire season.I enjoyed Kurt Warner's work on last night's game - I'd like to see him as a regular color commentator on Fox or CBS.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30604093/las-vegas-raiders-jon-gruden-not-going-td-regret-one-bit"The play was to eliminate all the clock and all the timeouts and put them back with their back against the wall with 19 seconds left," Gruden said.
Replay showed Doyle knocking it out of his handsRivers just threw a Kyleresque pass into the end zone, should have been picked but Pitt dropped it.
And.............touchdown, rammed it right down Pittsburgh's throat on that drive.Nantz goes bonkers over a TJ Watt sack. Meanwhile the Colts are marching STRONG.
and if their D was any softer it would blow away in the breeze...Steelers offense looks broken