I was a varsity athlete at Brandeis in the early 90's where the Celts (and the visiting clubs) practice which was a great way to meet them all. My pole vault pit was right beside the court ... they all thought I was crazy flinging myself into the air. Downside was when Reggie Lewis died there my sophomore year and the media half-blamed the school.I get the thrill of proximity to a hero. I spoke to Wilt for about 5 minutes, and Lebron for 45 seconds, and both events are imprinted on my memory for ever.
A friend of mine knew a security guard at Maple Leaf gardens and got to see the Orr and Espo's gear hanging in the locker room and Gary Doak told him to get the F out. Still envious.
20 of Brady's 70 career losses (29%) came at the hands of either Miami or Denver. Take out those 2 teams and Brady's win percentage jumps 32 points to 0.807.When I see Plummer (3-0) and Griese (2-0) all I can think is man, fuck Denver.
This is terrific, thanks for putting it togetherI had some spare time, so I decided to compile Brady's record against other QB's in the league during his career. Granted, the "head-to-head" record is a bit misleading, as the opposing QB's are never on the field at the same time. However, I'd thought it would be interesting just to see whom has shaken Brady's hand before heading back to the locker room in defeat.
While compiling this record, I gave Brady half-credit for his win against Kordell Stewart and the Steelers in the AFCCG, as Bledsoe came in and threw 3 more passes, 1 more TD pass, but 2 fewer completions. Similarly, I gave Matt Cassel the win in the game in which Brady was injured (as a side note, both starting QB's were injured that game), so neither Brodie Croyle's nor Damon Huard's only game against Brady and the Patriots is counted in the below. I also ignored Brady's cameo against the Lions in 2000, and the Mo Lewis game in which Bledsoe got injured late.
Brady has faced 116 QB's in his career, with a strong likelihood of facing 117 on Thursday. If all goes according to plan (i.e., no injuries), Brady will face Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, and possibly Josh Rosen (as a starter) this season for the first time, which would bring his total to 122. I honestly don't know where this fits all time.
Of those 116, all but 6 have lost to Brady at least once: Jake Plummer (3-0 against Brady), Brian Griese (2-0), Cam Newton (2-0), Patrick Ramsey, Kevin Kolb, and Nick Foles (the latter 3 won their single start against Brady). There are 5 more with a winning record against Brady: Drew Brees and Eli Manning (3-2 each); Alex Smith, Kyle Orton, and Russell Wilson (2-1 each). Again, I don't know where the 110 QB's that Brady has beaten at least once ranks all time.
Among these 11 QB's, only 6 are active, and the records against 5 are unlikely to change. The Pats play Seattle in 2020, so Brady may get another shot at Wilson, whom he has yet to beat during the regular season. But, barring playoffs, the Pats don't play either the Panthers or Saints until 2021. Nick Foles is a backup once again, Eli Manning is likely done, and Alex Smith is unlikely to play again.
There are 11 more with a 0.500 record against Brady: AJ Feeley, Aaron Rodgers, Colin Kaepernick, Colt McCoy (!), Gus Frerotte (!!), Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner, Matt Stafford, Rich Gannon, Sam Bradford, and Marcus Marriotta (I did not count the one playoff game in which Marriotta got hurt early on; I credited that one to Zach Mettenberger). All 11 are 1-1 lifetime against Brady.
On the other side, there are 74 QB's that have never beaten Brady in their careers. Philip Rivers owns the futility award, going 0-8 against Brady. Andrew Luck was 0-6, Tyrod Taylor 0-5, and Carson Palmer, JP Losman, Matt Moore, and Matt Ryan are 0-4 each.
Peyton Manning (ha-ha!) has the most career losses against Brady with 11, followed by Ryan Fitzpatrick with 10, Ben Roethlisberger with 9, Rivers with 8, Ryan Tannehill and Chad Pennington with 7 each, and Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Luck with 6 each.
Peyton Manning also owns the most career wins against Brady with 6. He is followed by Ryan Tannehill with 4, six more with 3 each (Flacco, Sanchez, Brees, Eli, Plummer) and 8 more with 2 each (Fitzpatrick, Pennington, Jay Fiedler, Alex Smith, Kyle Orton (!), Wilson, Griese, and Newton), and 26 with one win against Brady.
Also, Brady's record against QB's first names:
Alex: 2-2
Andrew/Andy: 8-1
Brian: 1-2
Chad: 11-3 (Henne & Pennington)
Chris: 3-0 (take that Chris Sims)
David: 4-0
Derek: 5-0
Drew: 6-4
Jake: 2-3
Jay: 7-3
Josh: 7-0
Kyle: 2-3
Matt: 15-2 (7 qb's)
Ryan: 17-11 (Fitzpatrick and Tannehill, but no Mallet)
Tim: 3-0
Tyler: 2-0
Vince/Vinny: 5-0
Record against former or future teammates: 9-1
- Brian Hoyer: 1-0
- Drew Bledsoe: 4-1
- Matt Cassel: 1-0
- Vinny Testaverde: 3-0
This is awesome---thank you.I had some spare time, so I decided to compile Brady's record against other QB's in the league during his career. Granted, the "head-to-head" record is a bit misleading, as the opposing QB's are never on the field at the same time. However, I'd thought it would be interesting just to see whom has shaken Brady's hand before heading back to the locker room in defeat.
While compiling this record, I gave Brady half-credit for his win against Kordell Stewart and the Steelers in the AFCCG, as Bledsoe came in and threw 3 more passes, 1 more TD pass, but 2 fewer completions. Similarly, I gave Matt Cassel the win in the game in which Brady was injured (as a side note, both starting QB's were injured that game), so neither Brodie Croyle's nor Damon Huard's only game against Brady and the Patriots is counted in the below. I also ignored Brady's cameo against the Lions in 2000, and the Mo Lewis game in which Bledsoe got injured late.
Brady has faced 116 QB's in his career, with a strong likelihood of facing 117 on Thursday. If all goes according to plan (i.e., no injuries), Brady will face Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, and possibly Josh Rosen (as a starter) this season for the first time, which would bring his total to 122. I honestly don't know where this fits all time.
Of those 116, all but 6 have lost to Brady at least once: Jake Plummer (3-0 against Brady), Brian Griese (2-0), Cam Newton (2-0), Patrick Ramsey, Kevin Kolb, and Nick Foles (the latter 3 won their single start against Brady). There are 5 more with a winning record against Brady: Drew Brees and Eli Manning (3-2 each); Alex Smith, Kyle Orton, and Russell Wilson (2-1 each). Again, I don't know where the 110 QB's that Brady has beaten at least once ranks all time.
Among these 11 QB's, only 6 are active, and the records against 5 are unlikely to change. The Pats play Seattle in 2020, so Brady may get another shot at Wilson, whom he has yet to beat during the regular season. But, barring playoffs, the Pats don't play either the Panthers or Saints until 2021. Nick Foles is a backup once again, Eli Manning is likely done, and Alex Smith is unlikely to play again.
There are 11 more with a 0.500 record against Brady: AJ Feeley, Aaron Rodgers, Colin Kaepernick, Colt McCoy (!), Gus Frerotte (!!), Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner, Matt Stafford, Rich Gannon, Sam Bradford, and Marcus Marriotta (I did not count the one playoff game in which Marriotta got hurt early on; I credited that one to Zach Mettenberger). All 11 are 1-1 lifetime against Brady.
On the other side, there are 74 QB's that have never beaten Brady in their careers. Philip Rivers owns the futility award, going 0-8 against Brady. Andrew Luck was 0-6, Tyrod Taylor 0-5, and Carson Palmer, JP Losman, Matt Moore, and Matt Ryan are 0-4 each.
Peyton Manning (ha-ha!) has the most career losses against Brady with 11, followed by Ryan Fitzpatrick with 10, Ben Roethlisberger with 9, Rivers with 8, Ryan Tannehill and Chad Pennington with 7 each, and Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Luck with 6 each.
Peyton Manning also owns the most career wins against Brady with 6. He is followed by Ryan Tannehill with 4, six more with 3 each (Flacco, Sanchez, Brees, Eli, Plummer) and 8 more with 2 each (Fitzpatrick, Pennington, Jay Fiedler, Alex Smith, Kyle Orton (!), Wilson, Griese, and Newton), and 26 with one win against Brady.
Also, Brady's record against QB's first names:
Alex: 2-2
Andrew/Andy: 8-1
Brian: 1-2
Chad: 11-3 (Henne & Pennington)
Chris: 3-0 (take that Chris Sims)
David: 4-0
Derek: 5-0
Drew: 6-4
Jake: 2-3
Jay: 7-3
Josh: 7-0
Kyle: 2-3
Matt: 15-2 (7 qb's)
Ryan: 17-11 (Fitzpatrick and Tannehill, but no Mallet)
Tim: 3-0
Tyler: 2-0
Vince/Vinny: 5-0
Record against former or future teammates: 9-1
- Brian Hoyer: 1-0
- Drew Bledsoe: 4-1
- Matt Cassel: 1-0
- Vinny Testaverde: 3-0
I saw this post and my first reaction was that it couldn't be true, because of the Monday Night Football intentional safety game in 2003.When I see Plummer (3-0) and Griese (2-0) all I can think is man, fuck Denver.
Chad Pennington: 7-2 *This is awesome---thank you.
A fun potential addition? His record against the "Brady 6" picked before him:
Came close. Tom Savage was Osweiller's backup in a 2016-17 playoff gameTom has never played a Tom.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7pSkAWAhQThis is awesome---thank you.
A fun potential addition? His record against the "Brady 6" picked before him:
Chad Pennington
Giovanni Carmazzi (0-0)
Chris Redman
Tee Martin
Marc Bulger
Spergon Wynn
Surprising that's all the HoF QBs he has facedAs an unrelated aside, Brady is 3-2 against current members of the NFL HoF: 2-1 against Favre, and 1-1 against Kurt Warner
McNair not in hall, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Ben, Eli, Rivers, Wilson, Mahomes will all probably get there...Surprising that's all the HoF QBs he has faced
The top QB's in the early part of the 2000's were either guys that were on the cusp of the Hall (McNair, Donovan McNabb), or guys that had short periods of brilliance surrounded by mediocrity or injury (Marc Bulger, Culpepper, Trent Green, Jake Delhomme).Just missed Aikman and Elway and Marino and Moon. Surprising how few guys who retired in the first decade of this century made the Hall.
Did a quick lookup: Urlacher entered the same year as Brady. But those are the three. Champ Bailey was one year earlier.Off the top of my head Ed Reed, Ladanian Tomlinson and Brian Urlacher all came into the league after Brady and are in the Hall of Fame. If Brady plays a couple more years he’ll see guys like Troy polomalu and Megatron get in. Maybe Seymour? These guys started after Brady and have been retired for 5 freakin’ years while he’s still putting up numbers and winning super bowls.
All Dolphins fans right now?Overall record: 37-12 (0.755). Also, does anyone still think tanking in the NFL is such a good strategy?
Then they should look at that list of QB's above. They are as likely to end up with the 2nd coming of Blake Bortles than they are with Cam Newton. Then again, I don't buy the counterarguments.All Dolphins fans right now?
Dolphins are likely to trade their top pick unless they really believe in one of the QB prospects. I am all in (?) on what Miami is doing.Then they should look at that list of QB's above. They are as likely to end up with the 2nd coming of Blake Bortles than they are with Cam Newton. Then again, I don't buy the counterarguments.
Why?Dolphins are likely to trade their top pick unless they really believe in one of the QB prospects. I am all in (?) on what Miami is doing.
Veering from the topic of the thread but...Why?
Anything can happen, but man, I just can't see him going anywhere knowing what we know about he likes to work, how he likes the no-nonsense approach here, etc. That doesn't man he agrees with 100% of all decisions, but I can't see it being better anywhere else.There’s virtually zero reason for Tom to want to leave the Pats other than, and this feels like a reach, he wants to prove he can win without Bill and the Death Star that’s been built here. He’s gonna start over with a new coach, system, and teammates at 43 years old when his current situation has had him playing for a ring every season for 20 years?
Unless it's like--"I want 1 year somewhere else, just to see what it's like before I'm done."He HAS to understand that BB is a huge part of his success, right? (of course, vice-versa) That there's literally nobody better certainly in the league now, and almost certainly in the history of the sport to build and operate a football team. It would have to be a MAJOR falling out for Brady to want to jump ship at 43 years of age, I would think.
Schefter didn't mention the no-franchise tag clause, but perhaps he was grouping everything in under "voided contract". Brady wanted maximum leverage for next season. Doesn't mean he'll leave, but it could mean a fairly hefty price tag for him to stay.I'm quietly concerned by some of the things Schefter mentions. The one ominous thing that he doesn't mention, I don't think, is Tom negotiating for no franchise in his most recent extension.
There is no way to really spin that. It doesn't mean he's leaving, obviously. But it definitely is what it is.
Conjecturing into the reasons the trainer sold his house is indeed silly, but....This is all nonsense. Brady having another year on his contract or not having another year means absolutely nothing.
I know that it's Schefter, but Brady's trainer? Really? It's embarrassing.
Sort of. Schefter's stock and trade is information via connections. In this case he doesnt say he has a source does he? That would be more concerning. It seems like he's being very open about the fact that this is nothing more than speculation on his part.I'm only worried because it's Schefter. He's usually not one to speculate and read tea leaves. His stock and trade is information.
They were speculating on F&M.Conjecturing into the reasons the trainer sold his house is indeed silly, but....
Brady has never been in a "contract year" before, and he's also never been 43 years old before (which he will be come August). They were speculating on F&M that Schefter may have heard from GM's saying they would be in on Brady if he was to somehow become available, which seems like a reasonable take (especially coming from those clowns).
The Bears are pretty much the ONLY team I could see him possibly going to, or maybe Carolina. All of the other teams either already have a franchise QB or are such dumpster fires that Brady would presumably want nothing to do with them.The Bears need a QB. . . .
Yeah if you watch it, Schefter basically has a shit eating grin on his face the whole time - he realizes he is more or less making it up.Sort of. Schefter's stock and trade is information via connections. In this case he doesnt say hw has a source does he? That would be more concerning. It seems like he's being very open about the fact that this is nothing more than speculation on his part.
Yeah - anyone worried should look around the league for teams that are a Tom Brady away from a SB (meaning he'd consider them) but not already heavily invested in a young QB (meaning they might want him at 43). If all he cares about is winning next year the only teams I could see would be the Bears, Vikings, or Panthers.Yeah, they’re giving him freedom he’s not had previously. If he’s not gonna get the security of an extension through age 45, and he hasn’t been offered that from what we know, then this is probably the next best concession they could make for him.
Sure, they could’ve said ‘no way’ to his ask that the contract voids even if it meant not getting the 4-5M in cap relief in 2019 the restructured deal bought them, but, as we’ve seen with DMC and Hightower, they do care about the optics of the player getting the OPTION to look around when it comes to the guys they value the most.
They’re arguably trying to appease him without letting him run the show or something. It’s a delicate balance.
I have a hard time seeing him actually leave absent the relationship souring badly (is he really gonna play for the Titans? The Bears?).
Brady for Goff deal so Belichick can prove his system is everything. But Goff doesn't come close to making quick reads and decisions like Brady.Yeah - anyone worried should look around the league for teams that are a Tom Brady away from a SB (meaning he'd consider them) but not already heavily invested in a young QB (meaning they might want him at 43). If all he cares about is winning next year the only teams I could see would be the Bears, Vikings, or Panthers.
Maybe he wins this year and enters the LBJ in LA phase of his career and is content to take over a young team that may or may not win but promises a quality of life improvement for his family - and maybe as a bonus he wins one without BB. What about a 2-year contract with Flores and the Dolphins before he passes the torch to Tua? What if the Niners do the unthinkable - would Brady even do that to Jimmy G?
EDIT: The Rams are heavily invested in Goff but they also seem ballsy enough to try it.
What happens when Brady and Belichick face off against one another?If Tom Brady played for another team, it would be calamitous. But it definitely could happen. The Bears need a QB. . . .
But, man alive, that would SUCK.
The Guerrero news is 2 months old, too. Not that it changes a forecast that's a season away.This is all nonsense. Brady having another year on his contract or not having another year means absolutely nothing.
I know that it's Schefter, but Brady's trainer? Really? It's embarrassing.