I'm surely outing myself as a dumbass, but what does this mean?And Shams saying the Kyrie/CBS relationship has frayed.
I'm surely outing myself as a dumbass, but what does this mean?And Shams saying the Kyrie/CBS relationship has frayed.
Coach Brad StevensI'm surely outing myself as a dumbass, but what does this mean?
And this is by Jackie Mac, ostensibly a reporter that Irving trusts. And she wrote this:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26702069/kyrie-irving-failed-leadership-tells-story-celtics-failed-season
Details the blow up after the Orlando game in more detail than I've seen before. The knives are indeed out.
He's gone.There are plenty of reasons to explain why this season was so hard, and why these Celtics were so disappointing. At the root of all of them, though, is Irving -- and, more specifically, his leadership through words and actions on and off the court.
I love Smart. He's basically protecting the house here. Even if he knows that internally its all bad news. Good for him.
Marcus Smart on the idea Kyrie’s leadership helped take down the Celtics: “Bullshit. That’s bullshit.”
Its also an accurate response to a silly question. The people blaming Kyrie for the Celtics falling short are hot-taking, projecting their biases and willfully ignoring the ample evidence that the roster was flawed in terms of composition/roles.I love Smart. He's basically protecting the house here. Even if he knows that internally its all bad news. Good for him.
count me in the "what is CBS?" camp...overuse of initials is rampant.Yup, confirmed. I'm a dumbass. For a second I was wondering if Willie Cauley Stein was going by Bill and why that was relevant.
You're theorizing Kyrie might not get offered a max deal from anybody?But from whom? Maybe Durant decides he does not want to play in NY. Or maybe Kyrie doesn't want to play in LA. He's only getting a max deal from Boston or one of the teams with enough cap space. It's a constrained market, especially now that there is no financial incentive in a sign-and-trade.
Sure the Knicks will offer one. The Nets and Clips might but I doubt it. I don't see either of those franchises investing $150M in the point guard position when they have excellent young cost-controlled alternatives and strong backups too (Dinwiddie and Shamet). Certainly Kyrie isn't going anywhere other than Boston until the AD, Kawhi, KD and Klay situations play out and teams' cap holds are resolved.You're theorizing Kyrie might not get offered a max deal from anybody?
He's going to get multiple offers for a max deal. You can lock in the Knicks 100% offering him one.
I think it would be a suitable next act. Send the scrub package out for Kevin Love and you've got Cleveland 2 Electric Boogaloo.Why is it LOL that he'd play with Lebron again? They publicly buried the hatchet this year, and both of them are looking for a superstar team-up.
Couples that break up tend to forget why they broke up until they're back together.Why is it LOL that he'd play with Lebron again? They publicly buried the hatchet this year, and both of them are looking for a superstar team-up.
What is Kemba’s rep around the league?You're theorizing Kyrie might not get offered a max deal from anybody?
He's going to get multiple offers for a max deal. You can lock in the Knicks 100% offering him one.
Knicks and Nets.Which "multiple teams?' Name them and explain why Kyrie would be a fit. And if they don't have the cap space, explain what they might plausibly do to get it.
Those are two good ones, though I don't necessarily see Kyrie reciprocating unless the chips all fall just right.Knicks and Nets.
Good article, and I'm in agreement as well.I'm down with my hometown WaPo scribe here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/05/09/its-time-kyrie-irving-boston-celtics-divorce/?utm_term=.237b45b0a0f5
I believe the answer us three months after signing, or December 15, whichever is later. Kyrie is not eligible for a no trade clause.If you resign him to a max deal, what are the rules regarding trading him?
If they sign him to a super max, I believe it is a one year trading restriction.I believe the answer us three months after signing, or December 15, whichever is later. Kyrie is not eligible for a no trade clause.
I don't believe the Nets will have interest. That's just NY media trash talk. The Nets will match offers on Russell and move on from there. Russell's cap hold is $21.1M, and a max offer would start at $27M-- still substantially less than what they would have to pay Kyrie.
Wouldn't you agree that both Kyrie and Ainge both recognize the need for the same type of player(s) on this cluster of a roster? The only reason I can envision for Ainge not to make moves this winter was to let the chips fall into place for a Davis deal. To his credit, one thing Kyrie has repeated throughout the season was his need to be a better leader.....whether he properly executes this growth is another question.I think the real revelations will come in the private sit-down meeting that Ainge and Irving will surely have sooner than later.
If I'm Ainge, I listen really hard. If I get a contrite Kyrie, who realizes he made some mistakes and is willing to submerge his ego for the greater good of the team, that's a guy I'd want back. But if it's a Kyrie who starts making demands about he needs this kind of player and that kind of player on the roster, then I'd pat him on the back and wish him good luck in New York or wherever.
Irving isn’t eligible for a DVPE extension as he was traded. So it’s just 1/15.If they sign him to a super max, I believe it is a one year trading restriction.
Tripped up again by the arcana of the CBA. Thanks.Irving isn’t eligible for a DVPE extension as he was traded. So it’s just 1/15.
Says the guy (SAS) who is wrong just about everything.Stephen A Smith on ESPN 98.7 FM in NYC: "It has been told to me that it is a 90-95% assurance that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant are coming to New York. Some in Irving's camp are pushing him to the Nets, but I've been told it's almost a done deal that Kyrie and KD are coming to the Garden."
I totally agree with this. The only hole in this (rational) logic is that Kyrie is weird as hell.Wouldn't you agree that both Kyrie and Ainge both recognize the need for the same type of player(s) on this cluster of a roster? The only reason I can envision for Ainge not to make moves this winter was to let the chips fall into place for a Davis deal. To his credit, one thing Kyrie has repeated throughout the season was his need to be a better leader.....whether he properly executes this growth is another question.
I disagree with those who feel like Kyrie had his belongings already packed and couldn't get out of Boston fast enough following this Bucks series. To me it sounds like mostly media-hyped stuff to get clicks and people are buying into it like its gospel. Kyrie would be leaving a ton of money on the table and likely leaving an opportunity to partner with AD while cashing in "assets" for actual productive role players to fit around them.
I don't think there's anything new in the article.http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26702069/kyrie-irving-failed-leadership-tells-story-celtics-failed-season
Details the blow up after the Orlando game in more detail than I've seen before. The knives are indeed out.
Oh perfect.“It’s not all Kyrie’s fault,” said a team source. “Those guys don’t like criticism.”
I mean, maybe, but I doubt anyone is leaking to people that would leak to SAS.Stephen A Smith on ESPN 98.7 FM in NYC: "It has been told to me that it is a 90-95% assurance that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant are coming to New York. Some in Irving's camp are pushing him to the Nets, but I've been told it's almost a done deal that Kyrie and KD are coming to the Garden."
100% agree with this. SAS has made a small fortune getting loud and making sh!t upIts entirely possible that Irving and Durant have a grand plan (though what happens if KD really did tear his achilles?) but the thing to note is that there are a lot of parties that have vested interest in spinning this whole situation. This includes other organizations, Celtics players and their respective inner circles and the media who cannot get enough earballs, eyeballs and clicks.
Even with the playoffs ongoing, we are officially in silly season. Human meme Stephen A Smith is highly unlikely to be the reporter who breaks a story like this.
For possible "multiple teams", I'd goWhich "multiple teams?' Name them and explain why Kyrie would be a fit. And if they don't have the cap space, explain what they might plausibly do to get it.
It's at least 50% (and may be as high as 75%) that he's back in Boston for the extra money. He's just playing with the media-- and enjoying it. And if Kyrie is back, that's zero championships in the next 5 years, with or without AD.
Let me add that I hope all of you are right and I am wrong, i.e. that a vast market emerges for Kyrie and that another team lures him away, because I want no part of him.