The ‘18-‘19 Kings/Grizzlies/Clippers: Tracking the Picks
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Not me, I’ll take the Grizz unprotected in 2021. They are set up to completely blow next year and hopefully beyond.
That's what he's saying. I think. If they finish 8th chances are they keep the pick this year.
Don’t we want them to finish with the second or third worst record? Why eighth?
Edit - Oh, geez, I didn’t realize how far ahead they are of a handful of shitty teams in the East. They should be trading their best players in the next week, though.
If they finish 8th, they keep their pick but have to choose from a lower tier of draft prospects, thus theoretically decreasing the odds that they will see any improvement next season and beyond.
Oh, yes. I’m pretty slow today. I still prefer 6 or so, in case someone above them slips into the top 3 and pushes them out.
Or used to draft a high ceiling player on a rookie deal to allow us to move Tatum and/or Brown in a blockbuster for Davis or whoever else becomes available in another two years. It will be crucial to have a couple of our Top-8 rotation players on rookie deals, Baynes-type deals, and Smart's deal to maintain economic feasibility in adding/maintaining high end talent.
If Sacramento and Memphis end up in the 6-8 range and lottery night rolls around - if the Celtics logo shows up at pick 9, would we have any idea if it was Sacramento's or Memphis' pick? Or would we need to wait until either a Memphis logo or 2nd Celtics logo is revealed?
I suppose if it got to the #1 pick we'd know that it's either Memphis or Philly in the #1 slot. Still, decent chance it's going to be a crazy night.
I suppose if it got to the #1 pick we'd know that it's either Memphis or Philly in the #1 slot. Still, decent chance it's going to be a crazy night.
Wouldn't the original teams still be represented? Sacramento's pick could still belong to Philadelphia so you can't just have the Celtics there. If I recall correctly, Memphis/Jerry West was there at the 2003 draft lottery even though the only way they would keep the pick was if it landed #1. And it landed #2 and went to Detroit instead.
Well Sacramento has zero chance at keeping the pick so I am unsure why they would be there. Memphis for sure will be there .
Just for fun: if the Cs luck into #9 and #2, would there be any chance they just totally reset their timeline — spin #2+9 into #1, let Kyrie walk, dump Hayward and Horford, and build for the mid-2020s around Tatum and Zion?
No. If they get #9 and #2, then Brown, Barrett, and filler are headed to the Pelicans for Davis. And Hayward is going to be outbound so that it's affordable. (And they'll probably tab someone like DeAndre Hunter at #9.)
No. They could try to trade to #1 to get Zion and use him in a trade to get AD so you don't have to give up Tatum. 3 team deal that spins Horford to another team and involves Zion/Brown/Smart/future picks going to New Orleans.
Also the "Trade Smart!" people need to get over this, the Celtics need his deal to afford the Davis/Irving tandem. Hayward's going to be the odd man out as they'd have nearly $120 million tied up in Davis, Irving, and Hayward in '21. Then you have another dozen guys to pay. Smart's outperforming his deal these days, so they're going to keep him.
I don't think that Irving and Davis became the plan until after the Irving trade. Three years ago the plan was Horford and Durant. When Durant went ring chasing instead the plan became "accumulate as much talent as possible to land Davis and surround him with a team". When they signed Hayward I think it's safe to say the hope was Davis and Hayward.
But then they got Kyrie. And the plan changed again.
But then they got Kyrie. And the plan changed again.
Lets say AD lands elsewhere. Do you think they push things back again and keep accumulating assets for KAT in a couple years? Or does Kyrie change that and they push the chips in on someone else this summer?
Not sure there’s someone else worth pushing the chips in for. Maybe Beal but trading for him would require sending away Smart and Brown among other filler and picks. Don’t think that’s a net positive for this team.
If AD chase is unsuccessful, I think Ainge tries to get Horford back on a short deal and then hopes that Hayward can get back close to his previous form while simultaneously hoping for continued growth from Tatum/Brown.
This isn't happening for all the reasons mentioned, but a Tatum/Zion/Brown/Rozier/Smart/TL core would be fun as hell, even if not as optimal from an immediate championship perspective.
Memphis and Minnesota in a tight one... was tied at 80 with 8 minutes left, now 89-84 MIN with 4 remaining
Truth. Better said would be, "we want Memphis to pick 8th" so finishing 6-7 seems ideal.I'd rather Memphis be 5th (Totally safe) or 6th (pretty assuredly safe). Remember, the lottery can see teams jump over them to bump them down 2, 3, even theoretically 4 spots now this year.
But yeah, we all want SAC to lose every single game so badly I figure there's a crazed Murph or Sully out there who's going to go Tonya Harding on Buddy Hield or DeAaron Fox. Which would be totally tragic and I would totally counsel against it... if it would keep them out past the start of next season.
Jazz and Grizz discussing a Rubio/Conley swap. Would also require picks/salary from Utah. Favors or Exum would have to be included most likely.
Clippers with their largest regular season comeback in franchise history, 25 points, and a win in Detroit.
Would the Celtics give them anything that increases expected wins? If Rozier is the difference between an expected #9 vs #4 (for example) in 2021, isn't 9 to 4 more than the value you get back for Terry Rozier? Exum/Rozier/JJJ/2019/2020 might be decent, especially if JJJ makes the leap by then.
Maybe he meant during FA. I don't know if a Rubio for Conley deal clears salary though.
I've heard Rubio+Favors? With Favors as effectively an expiring, would make sense for MEM.
It was unlikely Rozier was going to be traded this year before the recent Kyrie news as he carries little trade value with his expiring contract. Now that the Kyrie future uncertainty is out there...….the chances of Rozier being traded aren't even a fraction above zero.
I'd say the seed matters way more than the pick. There's a real strong possibility that these two meet in the first round (granted Indy could still fall), and home court would be huge considering the two teams are a combined 42-11 at home (.792) and a combined 25-26 on the road (.490).
Lakers go down, Clips up 2 games now. I doubt they hold on with Lebron coming back, but there's still hope.
Man, SAC up by double digits now in the 3rd.
They better fire Joerger or have some team mutiny or something, because that's a playoff team - only 2 back of LAC for the #8 seed, 2.5 behind Utah for #7.
They better fire Joerger or have some team mutiny or something, because that's a playoff team - only 2 back of LAC for the #8 seed, 2.5 behind Utah for #7.
Spurs are beginning a brutal stretch with tonight being their first of 8 straight road games sandwiches around the ASB. Seeing that I have Under 45.5 Wins I’m not very upset with the timing of these road trips.