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EvilEmpire

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I hate on post-winning the title Woodley as much as anybody, but c'mon Dana.

Rooting for Woodley to lose is the fight a lot of us want to see.
I think the Woodley fight will be next regardless of what White says now, but I sure would like to see the traffic jam at MW get unfucked.
 

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I felt like GSP had to finish the fight in the third round because the doctor wasn't going to let him get to the fourth with those cuts. Really impressive stuff from him in the scramble at the end.


I like Rose, but she's real country simple, huh?

Not really, go find some of her older stuff. She seems to have drawn back quite a bit since she got engaged to / starting working with Pat Burns, though she has improved quite bit as a fighter in that time period, so it is working for her. I'm super happy to see her win, and as Joe said, she is only 25, so she should be peaking. Very few female fighters have the diversity in their game that Rose does, she could have the belt for a while.


Was the Cruz decision over TJ legit?
No, TJ won that fight. I love Dom, but that decision was shit.


Dana says GSP is fighting Whittaker next.
He has to either fight Whittaker or give Bobby Knuckles the belt, since he is the interim champ. I think Whittaker is the better matchup for GSP between him and Woodley. We also don't know how long it is going to take Woodley to get back from his shoulder surgery.
 
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What's people's issue with woodley?
People think he's whiny and boring.

I felt like GSP had to finish the fight in the third round because the doctor wasn't going to let him get to the fourth with those cuts. Really impressive stuff from him in the scramble at the end.
And his gas tank wasn't going to last. Bisping would have won if he could have dragged it out.

Not really, go find some of her older stuff. She seems to have drawn back quite a bit since she got engaged to / starting working with Pat Burns, though she has improved quite bit as a fighter in that time period, so it is working for her. I'm super happy to see her win, and as Joe said, she is only 25, so she should be peaking. Very few female fighters have the diversity in their game that Rose does, she could have the belt for a while.
Yeah I think she's awesome. Plus 300-400 was such a good bet, but I could absolutely see a rematch and a trilogy coming.

He has to either fight Whittaker or give Bobby Knuckles the belt, since he is the interim champ. I think Whittaker is the better matchup for GSP between him and Woodley. We also don't know how long it is going to take Woodley to get back from his shoulder surgery.
I think it'd be poor form to win a belt and vacate immediately
 

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What's people's issue with woodley?

He had an undeserved title shot (didn't fight for 18 months or so) when he fought crowd favorite Robbie Lawler and knocked him out in 3 minutes.

He has NO personality. He's even more boring than GSP and he desperately wants to be liked. If he embraced being the villain he'd be a lot more popular I think.

Also he's a careful fighter and he doesn't need to be. He's the most explosive fighter in the UFC and could man handle his division. His fights vs Thompson were boring (though I guess the first one wasn't too bad) and then that Maia fight was 25 minutes of him stuffing take downs. He's a smart fighter, and by all accounts a good person, but his lack of charisma kills him.
 

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He has to either fight Whittaker or give Bobby Knuckles the belt, since he is the interim champ.
Right, and the speculation was that he would immediately vacate if/when he beat Bisping, and drop back down to WW if he was going to continue fighting. Woodley aside, I think WW is a much better place for GSP's game and long term health compared to a division w/ Rockhold/Yoel/Jacare/Weidman/etc in the top 5, not to mention Bobby.
 

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Didn't realize till just now that JJ was making those horrible comments about Rose's mental health and that of her family, nor did I know about Rose's family story. I have even more respect for her now.
 

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Some Francis N'Gannou facts:

- He was born poor in Cameroon and didn't receive any formal education after age 12, and moved to France as an adult. He was homeless and began working out at age 26 at an MMA gym.
- He's won all six of his UFC fights by stoppage; with his latest victory currently listed as via behading.
- UFC has a machine that tests punching power and N'Gannou's right hand measured the hardest punch the machine has ever recorded.
- That punch to Overeem was with his LEFT hand.
 

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Conor completely controlled Holloway in their 2013 fight for the shutout. Outscored him in strikes, takedowns and shit-talking.

Holloway seems to have grown tremendously since that fight. He is a man now.
 

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Conor completely controlled Holloway in their 2013 fight for the shutout. Outscored him in strikes, takedowns and shit-talking.

Holloway seems to have grown tremendously since that fight. He is a man now.
Makes sense. Holloway was what 21 at the time? That Overeem ko was unreal. Dudes weight was entirely on his front foot. That was all arm and reflex and still snapped his head back.
 

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Makes sense. Holloway was what 21 at the time? That Overeem ko was unreal. Dudes weight was entirely on his front foot. That was all arm and reflex and still snapped his head back.
Its wild that Overeem was starting to move away when he got hit too. Overeem has a terrible chin but that's knocking out anyone.
 
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Even in slow motion that head snaps back scary-quick. Infidel’s right, that’s knocking anyone out
 

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Conor completely controlled Holloway in their 2013 fight for the shutout. Outscored him in strikes, takedowns and shit-talking.

Holloway seems to have grown tremendously since that fight. He is a man now.
Holloway is the man right now, but I still wouldn't be sold his aggressiveness holds up trading with CM on the other side. Shame it'll never happen.

The Stipe/Ngannou fight can't come soon enough.
 

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Its wild that Overeem was starting to move away when he got hit too. Overeem has a terrible chin but that's knocking out anyone.
Anything*

It's great that for the first time in what seems like forever that a HW championship fight will have two guys under 37. Ngannou has a very bright future and is only 31, and Miocic at 35 is HW-young.

I love Overreem but he's been knocked out a million time, his chin has been completely gone for years, and that was one of the worst knockouts I've seen. He's one of the best HWs ever, but it's time.

Holloway is the man right now, but I still wouldn't be sold his aggressiveness holds up trading with CM on the other side. Shame it'll never happen.
Could happen at 155.
 

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Brian Ortega is a hell of a fighter. That must be the slickest JJ in the game.

I play all those front head lock games so I’m biased in my agreement with you. Dude takes too many punches though, I worry about that.

Seeing Rener in his corner cracks me up and makes me feel old. Kid was always getting dragged around the country with his dad, UFC founder Rorion Gracie, back in the late 90s.
 

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Holly was game, but it seems Cyborg is (still) too damn strong and just cannot be hurt.