I wonder if this was similar to asking Wes Welker if he knew who Wally Pip was in that Hostetler led the Giants to Super Bowl victory after starting the season as a back-up.Belichick has Brady meet Jeff Hostetler after practice, who lives nearby. Nice bit of history and nostalgia there, though not notable for much other than the fact that one of Hostetler's daughters is a huge Brady fan and she basically melted when taking a picture with him.
Including playoffs, JJ Watt has played 5 games against the Pats:Peter King report: "The Patriots are beatable. They were down 25 points in Super Bowl after all. And watching JJ Watt on some plays against that OL the last few days..."
So, Watt, on "some" plays and being down 28-3 in SB and King wants to be the "I told you so" guy.
I just read an article in the Herald about how Marcus Cannon was owning Watt in practice this week. Makes me wonder if King was watching the same practice.Peter King report: "The Patriots are beatable. They were down 25 points in Super Bowl after all. And watching JJ Watt on some plays against that OL the last few days..."
So, Watt, on "some" plays and being down 28-3 in SB and King wants to be the "I told you so" guy.
D.J. Foster has been doing well in camp and take up the space until Gillislee returns. There's to rush to get him back early.Well, there's no need to rush the guy with Burkhead, White, Lewis, and Bolden there. I don't *think* he becomes the "Surprise Camp Cut". Taking it slow seems okay to me, outside of other injuries.
Umm, the beat reporters have been saying Cannon more than held his own against Watt. Just who is afraid of the Texans?Peter King report: "The Patriots are beatable. They were down 25 points in Super Bowl after all. And watching JJ Watt on some plays against that OL the last few days..."
So, Watt, on "some" plays and being down 28-3 in SB and King wants to be the "I told you so" guy.
Of course, the Patriots didn't have Gronk, Cooks, their new RBs, Gilmore, etc.If Watson turns out to be a competent QB and Watt is healthy, I would say they are a pretty scary team. That playoff game last year was a lot closer than the final score indicates, and that was without their best player and the Brockstar at QB.
Of course, they have Tom Savage and Weeden as their other two QBs, so, yeah, that position is important to their success.
That's nice and all but the question isn't about the Patriots. The Texans are a good team with a competent QB. Whether they have a competent QB is still to be seen, of course. It's a damn miracle they made the playoffs last year with their QB play.Of course, the Patriots didn't have Gronk, Cooks, their new RBs, Gilmore, etc.
You implied the Texans are a significant threat because, despite more than doubling their score to win by 3 scores, the Texans (who now have a questionable rookie QB) can knock off the Patriots. A bit weird to then turnaround and disregard the Patriots additions since then while noting the Texans got back Watt.That's nice and all but the question isn't about the Patriots. The Texans are a good team with a competent QB. Whether they have a competent QB is still to be seen, of course. It's a damn miracle they made the playoffs last year with their QB play.
Their defense is quite scary when fully healthy although the Pats have generally handled them quite well. However, the potential is certainly there for a Pats/Jets 2010 playoffs type game where they are relentless in getting to Brady and make a few plays on offense. There's no reason why Savage/Watson can't be like 2010 Sanchez and do just enough to get the job done. Last year's game would have been very different had Butterfingers Fuller caught that ball. Of course, the Pats kind of puked all over themselves with unforced errors as well.That's nice and all but the question isn't about the Patriots. The Texans are a good team with a competent QB. Whether they have a competent QB is still to be seen, of course. It's a damn miracle they made the playoffs last year with their QB play.
The question asked by SSF is who is afraid of the Texans. I took that to mean more general than Patriots-focused question. Given they made the playoffs while missing their best player and having a historically awful QB at the helm, I am suggesting that many teams should be afraid of the Texans. A major data point IMO is their defense that beat the shit out the Patriots, from a physical sense, in the playoff game that IMO was a lot closer than the score indicates (a one score game into the 4th quarter), and became three scores largely due to said historically awful QB being historically awful.You implied the Texans are a significant threat because, despite more than doubling their score to win by 3 scores, the Texans (who now have a questionable rookie QB) can knock off the Patriots. A bit weird to then turnaround and disregard the Patriots additions since then while noting the Texans got back Watt.
Houston was probably the 25th best team in the league last year, and the 3rd best team in their division. They made the playoffs because the other teams in the division had terrible records in close games, and they went 8-2 in 1 score games, and frankly, they could improve significantly, and end up winning 6 games. Their defense is pretty good, but nowhere near, say Denver, and their offense and special teams were downright terrible.Given they made the playoffs while missing their best player and having a historically awful QB at the helm, I am suggesting that many teams should be afraid of the Texans.
This is some good postin. Mmmm, mmmm good. Thanks!Houston was probably the 25th best team in the league last year, and the 3rd best team in their division. They made the playoffs because the other teams in the division had terrible records in close games, and they went 8-2 in 1 score games, and frankly, they could improve significantly, and end up winning 6 games. Their defense is pretty good, but nowhere near, say Denver, and their offense and special teams were downright terrible.
That, and they're playing the NFC West, AFC North, and they get to travel to NE and Seattle this year.
And yes, their defense played an awesome game against the Patriots - and that front 7 is ridiculous - but they still got blown out. Even when a good team makes every mistake possible, their offense and special teams don't have the talent to make people pay.
From @MikeReiss & I: the Patriots fear their top draft pick DE Derek Rivers has suffered a season-ending knee injury, per league sources.
So...how retired is Ninkovich?They really need to make a move at DE whether it's trade or FA.
Other than Freeney, is there anyone still out there?They really need to make a move at DE whether it's trade or FA.
Paul Kruger and Mario Williams are other possibilities, in the washed-up-formerly-big-names category.Other than Freeney, is there anyone still out there?
Look at Tannehill. Surgery is always needed for an ACL.ACL
#Patriots 3rd rd pick DE Derek Rivers tore his ACL & sprained his LCL, per the initial MRI. 2nd opinion coming to confirm surgery is needed.
I'm with you here.Paul Kruger and Mario Williams are other possibilities, in the washed-up-formerly-big-names category.
I like the idea of a trade for a younger guy that hasn't worked out elsewhere but that BB liked in the draft (basically a Mingo, Rowe, Van Noy, Bostic, Ayers type transaction). But I have no idea who the target might be.
Well, our truly important players haven't really seen much action yet. If we get through preseason with this as the biggest injury, then I'll be quite pleased.Good sign when the biggest thing people are freaking out about is a 3rd round draft pick.
The way that Lucien and Carr have looked so far.... maybe using Amendola or Hogan as trade bait could get something nice back. Not advocating it (I'm in the dcmissle camp of not doing anything yet), but either of those guys could potentially get something pretty useful back at DE.They really need to make a move at DE whether it's trade or FA.
I wouldn't want to dig into depth at another position to fill a short-term need. Amendola, while 1 year on his deal, makes big plays in this offense and Hogan is a key guy. I'm not opening holes to fill another one. To me, it's either sign a street free agent or trade a draft pick for a player.The way that Lucien and Carr have looked so far.... maybe using Amendola or Hogan as trade bait could get something nice back. Not advocating it (I'm in the dcmissle camp of not doing anything yet), but either of those guys could potentially get something pretty useful back at DE.
There was a recent article on patspulpit that suggested that the changes to the roster cut down process may make it more advantageous for a team like a Patriots to trade a player on their roster bubble (someone like Lucien, Carr, etc.) prior to the roster cut down dates. Every team in the league will be moving cutting 37 players from their rosters at the same time instead of cutting down in stages like they have in previous years.The way that Lucien and Carr have looked so far.... maybe using Amendola or Hogan as trade bait could get something nice back. Not advocating it (I'm in the dcmissle camp of not doing anything yet), but either of those guys could potentially get something pretty useful back at DE.
I hear you. And I agree. I am with pappymojo and think that Freeney represents probably the best option. We know the guy knows how to play football, he can still get to the QB in the right situation, and he'd be cheap.I wouldn't want to dig into depth at another position to fill a short-term need. Amendola, while 1 year on his deal, makes big plays in this offense and Hogan is a key guy. I'm not opening holes to fill another one. To me, it's either sign a street free agent or trade a draft pick for a player.
NopeLet me get this right...our first round draft pick....
Sorry...corrected...I saw a press report that was obviously wrong that said he was first round pick. But the question and point is still valid. And I'm not sure what your point is but it is interesting that Gronk no longer plays on the PAT team.Nope
Massive lol at complaining that Rivers was playing in a special teams drill. The definiton of the fellowship of the miserable.
Rivers is an exciting prospect. But he is a rookie, drafted in the 3rd round, has length but is light for the position and is making the jump from 1-AA football to the NFL. How much were people really expecting of him in 2017?Pickins are slim for FA at DE. Guys like...
Freeney
Mario
SenDerick marks
Odrick (who I thought they liked for like 5 min)
Kendall langford (who is probably hurt)