Didn't realize that, thought it was just Stone and Crawford's buyout.That pick went to Atlanta in the Gallo deal.
Didn't realize that, thought it was just Stone and Crawford's buyout.That pick went to Atlanta in the Gallo deal.
I've been puzzled at Duncan and Leroux on this one---they almost never mention Bradley, and I can't really figure out why. I think one aspect of it is that Smart's game is one you need to see almost daily to appreciate; however, those guys also get some of the analytics and the story there is very clearly in Smart's favor as well, which they seem blind to.As an aside, I find it very interesting that all the national writers seem to think that Smart is the obvious candidate to get moved (this is the general refrain on Twitter and the Dunc'd On podcast with Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux barely even mentioned the possibility someone other than Smart gets moved) whereas the local media and most educated fans think that there's no way that Smart gets moved
Why would you think there is no way Smart gets moved? Something has to give, and if he brings back good value, I would not be surprised in the least to see him go. Somehow we need more talent up front, and if Smart is part of a package to do that I'm fine with that. Bradley or Crowder too. One thing I would not like to see is two of the guards going, because that would leave us too thin in the backcourt.As an aside, I find it very interesting that all the national writers seem to think that Smart is the obvious candidate to get moved (this is the general refrain on Twitter and the Dunc'd On podcast with Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux barely even mentioned the possibility someone other than Smart gets moved) whereas the local media and most educated fans think that there's no way that Smart gets moved
Can they take on a player from the Clips to match salary, or is that not allowed with TPE?As it goes, Bradley's contract is too large for the Clippers TPE.
Crowder fits, though. I could see him going for air and the crummy Houston draft pick.
On some level, I think he will be traded so Ainge can maintain good relationships with his agency (granted, they don't have a huge NBA client base). If that's not a good enough reason, the Celtics can get more now than later if Crowder starts demanding a deal.
Like I said, low expectations.
I don't think you can combine TPE's with players.Can they take on a player from the Clips to match salary, or is that not allowed with TPE?
Agreed on Harris being better than AB (they are actually pretty similar type of players as well) However, while its definitely not a perfect fit, I do think they could use AB. From all reports, Denver seems to have given up on Mudiay. Barton could theoretically play some small ball 3. And for a team that has prioritized winning now, their back court is very young.Denver does not need AB at all. Gary Harris is better than AB. They also have Barton, Murray, Mudiay that need minutes. Denver needs a back up SF.
Pretty sure that TPE's cannot be combined with anything (another TPE or a salary) to match.Can they take on a player from the Clips to match salary, or is that not allowed with TPE?
Not sure why you think this is a fire sale. Celtics have many routes to clear the cap space to sign Hayward and while teams know Ainge needs to do it, it's not as if he is trying to dump shitty salary on teamsThe Celtics obviously don 't get back equal value in any of those deals, but teams rarely do in a fire sale.
I don't know that Green does get 4/44 on his next deal, and I did mention him above. The recent Pat Patterson deal I think lowers Green's contract demands, but this gives me a second idea, namely a sign & trade where Bradley/Crowder go to Memphis for Green & pick, with JMG signed to a deal large enough to keep the Grizz under the cap and small enough to generate a TPE for Boston to use to add another piece if they need to.Kevin O' Connor on twitter mentioned something about a sign & trade for JaMychal Green, Figure Green makes around 11 million a year on this new contract, wouldn't the trade have to be Bradley and Crowder or is it possible to do a Bradley/Demetrius Jackson trade and make the salaries work?
Isn't Bradley and a 2nd to Philly for Richaun Holmes a deal that makes sense for everyone involved? Philly gets another backcourt guy who is a good fit for their team, they can bring Fultz along without being forced to start him. Boston gets a cheap big who fits what they need
I agree that Buttjelly isn't going to be reasonable in his demands and that Boston should just look for more realistic options at the 4.I think Philly would want a first for Holmes, and would at least start by asking for one of the premium firsts. And/or that we take Okafor's deal.
Harris is in an interesting spot, because Murray probably needs to primarily defend the 2 spot, even if they have hopes of him managing the offense (the way Harden has in Houston).Denver does not need AB at all. Gary Harris is better than AB. They also have Barton, Murray, Mudiay that need minutes. Denver needs a back up SF.
It makes sense in that Boston can move the salary to the Hawks without hassle and get back someone like Taurean Prince to replace Crowder. Prince is another F that's longer/bouncier than Crowder that can give you playing time at both F spots.Washburn speculates that Jae may be headed to ATL. Not sure why he thinks that but it's certainly among the dozen or so possibilities that DA and his crew are sorting through.
The Celtics have little leverage because of timing. They need to clear the cap space by the weekend, and teams know this.Not sure why you think this is a fire sale. Celtics have many routes to clear the cap space to sign Hayward and while teams know Ainge needs to do it, it's not as if he is trying to dump shitty salary on teams
I don't think there's any chance that ATL is giving up a promising 3 on a rookie deal -- regardless of how good Crowder's salary is.It makes sense in that Boston can move the salary to the Hawks without hassle and get back someone like Taurean Prince to replace Crowder. Prince is another F that's longer/bouncier than Crowder that can give you playing time at both F spots.
There is no deadline per se, but they would theoretically need to have the space cleared by the end of the moratorium so they can finalize their contract offer to Hayward. It would be a major insult to him and his agent if they didn't have everything lined up by then.when is the deadline to clear the salary? Midnite on Friday?
Yeah, but they have multiple players they can move with multiple suitors for each player and, as a competent front office, I expect they've been laying the groundwork for solving this problem before yesterday. So they dont have leverage in the sense they are the ones against a deadline, but they should have leverage in the sense they should be able to pick from multiple options.The Celtics have little leverage because of timing. They need to clear the cap space by the weekend, and teams know this.
A major insult? DoubtfulIt would be a major insult to him and his agent if they didn't have everything lined up by then.
Why? I mean Hayward is going to get his money whether he signs at the end of the moratorium or two days afterwards. Honestly asking.There is no deadline per se, but they would theoretically need to have the space cleared by the end of the moratorium so they can finalize their contract offer to Hayward. It would be a major insult to him and his agent if they didn't have everything lined up by then.
I agree Tatum ends up a four to me, he's not quick enough to beat good wings but is to beat most fours I think, which makes his shooting and iso much more dangerous. I think that plays up his passing and he's much more likely to be ok defensively once he adds strength.I think Tatum ends up playing a lot of 4 in the future but in the now he needs to add some weight. And I was just thinking that Yabu was a trade candidate. I don't believe he's staying overseas for a 2nd year until it's actually confirmed. Especially since he was already in the D League.
They don't need AB now and he's a free agent next year, Holmes is an important piece with Noel gone and embiid injury concerns.Isn't Bradley and a 2nd to Philly for Richaun Holmes a deal that makes sense for everyone involved? Philly gets another backcourt guy who is a good fit for their team, they can bring Fultz along without being forced to start him. Boston gets a cheap big who fits what they need
And stauskas and korkmaz (Anderson is more a 3/4 and sucks )The Sixers just spent 23 million dollars on a 2 guard, and drafted a guard number one overall. They currently have Fultz, Redick, Anderson, Bayless, McConnell, and Luwawu-Cabarrot in their guard rotation. The odds that they'd give up a real asset for an UFA seem pretty slim to me.
It's generally considered a faux pas to offer a contract that you can't afford. It's unlikely that they pitched Hayward a full max offer without showing or explaining the deals tentatively in place to acquire the necessary cap space. If you wait until after the moratorium you are now left with fewer teams having the necessary space in which to take back a player and you're potentially leaving your new superstar acquisition hanging while you canvas for possible deals. You kind of want everything ready on July 8 so you can do the big press conference.Why? I mean Hayward is going to get his money whether he signs at the end of the moratorium or two days afterwards. Honestly asking.
I think it comes down to the fact that Smart can't shoot and Avery can. Avery's defense on quick PG's is probably a (much less) significant consideration as well. At the end of the day, the skills Smart does possess exist elsewhere on the roster.I've been puzzled at Duncan and Leroux on this one---they almost never mention Bradley, and I can't really figure out why. I think one aspect of it is that Smart's game is one you need to see almost daily to appreciate; however, those guys also get some of the analytics and the story there is very clearly in Smart's favor as well, which they seem blind to.
As much as I like their podcast, I do think they tend to have a 'one size fits all' approach and thus can miss when teams are thinking in different ways.
I've always liked Marc Gasol, but I don't think it's a fit for a few reasons. He's 32, he has 3 years left on his deal paying him 22, 24, and 25 million per year. I wouldn't give up a "ready made rebuilding package" as I've seen quoted as the asking price. Gasol's best days are (likely) behind him so paying a premium when we may already be a year or two away seems shortsighted. If he were a couple of years younger it would be more interesting, but giving up picks/young players for Gasol doesn't seem to help us get over the Golden State hump and we're probably already good enough to threaten Cleveland.What does everyone think about Marc Gasol?
"Chris Mannix of The Vertical reported two league executives identified Gasol as a potential trade target, and Mannix speculated that Boston could acquire him in exchange for a "ready-made rebuilding package of players and picks."
That is from the mobile app link: http://ble.ac/2upTWoR
What exactly is interesting about him? he has played less than 200 minutesThe Pelicans need guards right? Cheick Diallo is an interesting cheap young big on their bench.
I'll weigh in here. Before the 2015-2016 college season he was called out as someone to watch by our group of draft mavens (I kept the list so I could track these guys) and while he ended up not having the year folks thought he might coming out of high school to Kansas he certainly is one of those potential high upside types who is still very young.What exactly is interesting about him? he has played less than 200 minutes
Was a top hs prospect (Danny loves those) huge wingspan, showed some interesting skill in the D league, and in his short NBA run showed good rebounding and low turnover rates and decent FT shooting shows some potential to develop as a stretch. Definitely a work in progress, but one with real upside.What exactly is interesting about him? he has played less than 200 minutes
Completely agree. The more I look at this, the more I realize that Bradley and Crowder are going to have to be packaged together to get the type of player that the Celtics need (and unfortunately due to this cap crunch they are going to get more like $0.70 on the dollar for what they are giving up).I'm not sure targeting a long term prospect like that is really what the C's should be doing, though. They have Tatum and Yabusele as potential long-term options as stretch 4 types, but they really could use someone reliable in front of those guys while they develop. Amir and KO may not have been world beaters, but they at least had some miles under their belts that you could put them in at big moments and have some confidence... they don't currently have someone like that. One of the DEN guys, Marvin Williams, Jamychal Green, James Johnson (though of course a trade works better here)... that's the tier of guys I think they should be targeting. It's lower ceiling types, but guys that aren't going to be making rookie mistakes in crunch time.