Didn't see anywhere to put below so started a new thread.
Suggest not to post any draft-related stuff here until after draft night.
Suggest not to post any draft-related stuff here until after draft night.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-free-agency-rumors-predictions-2017-amir-johnson-raptors-celtics-contract-details/1ayx5zu36ptx81jnncgbjngbuq?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterNBA free agency rumors: Amir Johnson, Raptors strongly considering reunion, SN sources say
Too much of an injury risk.http://www.denverpost.com/2017/05/30/danilo-gallinari-will-decline-option-free-agent-nuggets/
Gallinari reportedly will be declining his option. Many here had wanted to trade for him in recent seasons. Would ppl still want Gallinari as a backup plan if Gordon Heyward signs elsewhere?
This is awesome! I'm really excited to be out in Vegas at Summer League next month to watch our new additions!Zizic is skipping the EuroBasket tourney in August/September to focus on his move to the Celtics.
I'm not sure if I was posting here last summer but or only on CelticsNuts but I do remember sharing some funny sequences and experiences. I'll recap a few off the top of my head..........And I'm excited to know that you'll be reporting on your observations from there.
I dunno. Maybe. I've mentioned it before, but he started jacking up 3s half way through the season and making them. If he can really shoot 3-4 3's a game and make 36% of them, with his passing skills he should be able to get by being a step slower. What is the max he can sign for anyway? 5 years or 4 years?Blake at this stage seems similar to when Amare signed with the Knicks. You'll hopefully get a couple of good seasons before his body breaks down.
If Chris Paul skips town there's a solid chance we never see that pick at all. Needs to fall outside the lottery in either that year or 2020 and currently the only players guaranteed through the '18-'19 season are Jamal Crawford and Wesley Johnson. If he stays I think enough pieces stay in place to keep it around the 20 range, which would represent a decent value win over what was traded for it.Wojo says that Cs are "a primary threat to sign" Blake Griffin away from the Clippers. http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246250/Celtics-Considered-Primary-Threat-To-Sign-Blake-Griffin-Away-From-Clippers
While I'm not sure how much better Griffin makes the Cs, if signing Griffin means that the Clippers have to blow everything up - thus making the 2019 pick even more valuable - I'm all for it.
You're right, thanks for the correction. I forgot it was lottery protected. Getting senile in my old age.If Chris Paul skips town there's a solid chance we never see that pick at all. Needs to fall outside the lottery in either that year or 2020 and currently the only players guaranteed through the '18-'19 season are Jamal Crawford and Wesley Johnson. If he stays I think enough pieces stay in place to keep it around the 20 range, which would represent a decent value win over what was traded for it.
Agreed. He's already started play away from the rim a bit more. His rebounds have gone down almost every year in the league, while his assists have gone up. Griffin's defensive shortcomings at the rim are also less of a problem than they used to be, as the league has moved to more of a perimeter game.I dunno. Maybe. I've mentioned it before, but he started jacking up 3s half way through the season and making them. If he can really shoot 3-4 3's a game and make 36% of them, with his passing skills he should be able to get by being a step slower. What is the max he can sign for anyway? 5 years or 4 years?
I think that frontcourt would match up pretty well with Cleveland assuming they don't trade Love. At this point, I just want the talent upgrade and would worry about the fit later. My preference is still Hayward but if he stays in Utah, I'd go hard after Griffin and sort out the roster later.Does a Griffin-Horford front line work in today's game? Both have shown that they can shoot 3s, but neither is a strech big in the traditional sense. They're both good defenders, but neither offers much rim protection, and neither is going to chase smaller fours out on the perimeter. It just seems like a moderately awkward fit even if the talent upgrade would be huge. My guess is Stevens could make it work but it doesn't make perfect sense basketball-wise.
Him and Stoudamire aren't really comparable anyway. Amare was pretty one dimensional offensively and arguably a worse rebounder than Griffin. He did block some shots in his early days though. I wonder how Amare would have fared in today's game. He was a pretty good FT shooter so maybe he could have expanded his game beyond the arc. He wasn't terrible from 16"+Agreed. He's already started play away from the rim a bit more. His rebounds have gone down almost every year in the league, while his assists have gone up. Griffin's defensive shortcomings at the rim are also less of a problem than they used to be, as the league has moved to more of a perimeter game.
It's a strange comparison since they came in the league as such different players, but looking at the box scores, he looks a lot like Al Horford actually.
It would also give the opposing teams fits on the offensive end. The ball movement and spacing would be amazing.Does a Griffin-Horford front line work in today's game? Both have shown that they can shoot 3s, but neither is a strech big in the traditional sense. They're both good defenders, but neither offers much rim protection, and neither is going to chase smaller fours out on the perimeter. It just seems like a moderately awkward fit even if the talent upgrade would be huge. My guess is Stevens could make it work but it doesn't make perfect sense basketball-wise.
Rim protection should be decent enough. But the ability to defend quicker players worries me a bit. Not only stretch fours, but also guards off screens and picks.Does a Griffin-Horford front line work in today's game? Both have shown that they can shoot 3s, but neither is a strech big in the traditional sense. They're both good defenders, but neither offers much rim protection, and neither is going to chase smaller fours out on the perimeter.
Partly Jordan but also because he's moved away from the rim. It's mostly his offensive rebounding that has suffered.Horford, imo, is a decent rim protector. He's not a super flashy weakside shot blocker, but those are somewhat distinct.
I do think rebounding is a challenge for a Griffin-Horford front line....but Celts have tended to worry less about that. Griffin also was (his first two years) an outstanding rebounder and his decline coincides with Jordan's increase in minutes. That doesn't mean Griffin would get 12 a game here, but it is not completely inconceivable he'd be better than his recent numbers suggest.
Pretty sure everyone would. Blake is a fallback option. I would take Blake or Millsap over nothing. I do think Griffin is a better fit than Hayward, but the C's would be better with Hayward. He's a better player and a decent fit himself.Man, I'd take Hayward over Griffin every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
• One full year younger
• Much less worrisome injury history, with a smoother game that seems like it'll age better
• More versatile game on both ends (stretches the floor much better on O, more capable of guarding guards and wings on D)
Also, more anecdotally: Hayward seems like a genuinely good dude both on and off court, where Blake seems like a bit of a tool (e.g. punching members of his training staff, that gross "suck me" thing he did to a staffer, etc.) who is widely disliked around the league for his flopping and other annoying antics.
Just say no to Blake!
Certainly. I think Griffin's ceiling is higher. Both players carry considerable injury risk, so no edge there.Blake Griffin over Danilo Gallinari?
[Drummond likes fan photoshopped picture of himself in a Celtics jersey.]It's all fun and games till Drummond likes the tweet
Google "Sofoklis Schortsanitis" then imagine going up against that grown-ass man as a 16 year old. Our young Ante is tempered by fire.Apologize if this has been posted before, but just found this video from June 2016. It's David Blatt speaking at the adidas EUROCAMP 2016 and talk to all the young men about their basketball careers. His main point - that everything a player does is important - is illustrated by story he tells of a certain Celtic. People who haven't watched it really should.
edit: video came from this story, which is also worth reading.
Wow. That was awesome. Thanks for sharing. Lots of life lessons can be taken from the basketball court. Ill take a kid like Zizic every day and twice on Sunday over a kid like Bender.Apologize if this has been posted before, but just found this video from June 2016. It's David Blatt speaking at the adidas EUROCAMP 2016 and talk to all the young men about their basketball careers. His main point - that everything a player does is important - is illustrated by story he tells of a certain Celtic. People who haven't watched it really should.
edit: video came from this story, which is also worth reading.
I was about to post the same here. Blake is a slightly plus rebounder for his position once you look beyond the spreadsheet and recognize how many rebounds DeAndre takes from Blake.I'd be inclined to think that there is more there from Griffin on the defensive glass than the numbers indicate.
Defensive rebound rates not that different from Horford (a bit better) but Griffin shares the floor with a rebounding beast.
Possibly, but some folks think he's a decent prospect. He was defensive player of the year in his league per twitter.Celtics sign Daniel Theis
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246314/Celtics-Agree-To-Sign-Daniel-Theis
Is this a move to make salaries match in a trade?
I am dubbing him Vogeltrooper.Possibly, but some folks think he's a decent prospect. He was defensive player of the year in his league per twitter.
https://www.celticsblog.com/2017/6/19/15830506/report-boston-celtics-to-sign-daniel-theis-germany-bundesliga
Gary Washburn says he has a 2-year contract.It's really weird timing though unless he signed for the vet min.
oh, now I see, it's just a verbal commit until they have figured out everything, he didn't actually sign.
Yeah, he most certainly did. Lord have mercy!Man, he completely owned our boy Zizic in that first clip
Charles Smithesque circa 1993Man, he completely owned our boy Zizic in that first clip
Or Kendrick Perkins circa 2003-2016Charles Smithesque circa 1993