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dcmissle

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To think of all those wasted years in Oakland under old, crazy Al. Same damn thing in Dallas until Stephen intervened. We fans are saps.
 

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Entirely possible. I'm afraid they'll go after Mixon... The kid screwed up hard 3 years ago but the talent is undeniable. Has Raiders move written all over it.

That's an Al Davis move. Mark Davis said there is zero chance a player with a DV history will be on the team due to the team's public and financial commitment to Fred Belitnikoff's foundation. Belitnikoff's daughter was killed by an abusive ex-boyfriend.

Here's Davis on the topic:

“We have zero tolerance,” Davis told Killion on the topic of domestic violence. “To make it more Raiders-like, let’s say double zero tolerance, like Jim Otto’s number.”

“I’ll lead by example,” Davis said. “I’ll continue to speak if someone asks. I think this is a very, very serious situation. But the thing I can deal with is our own organization.”

“It’s just something we can’t tolerate. I don’t know how to fix it in society but I know we can’t have it on our team.”
http://justblogbaby.com/2015/11/17/mark-davis-talks-zero-tolerance-on-domestic-violence/
 

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That's an Al Davis move. Mark Davis said there is zero chance a player with a DV history will be on the team due to the team's public and financial commitment to Fred Belitnikoff's foundation. Belitnikoff's daughter was killed by an abusive ex-boyfriend.

Here's Davis on the topic:



http://justblogbaby.com/2015/11/17/mark-davis-talks-zero-tolerance-on-domestic-violence/
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/broken-down-dj-surprised-to-find-out-derek-carr-was-driving-him-to-get-gasoline-155428110.html

I love your QB.
 

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Wow. I can't fathom the amount of pain that must have caused FB.
Good for Davis. Haircuts aside, I continue to be impressed by that organization.
 

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That's an Al Davis move. Mark Davis said there is zero chance a player with a DV history will be on the team due to the team's public and financial commitment to Fred Belitnikoff's foundation. Belitnikoff's daughter was killed by an abusive ex-boyfriend.

Here's Davis on the topic:



http://justblogbaby.com/2015/11/17/mark-davis-talks-zero-tolerance-on-domestic-violence/
Aldon Smith? I know he's on really thin ice but why haven't they cut ties since his DV incident?
 

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Aldon Smith? I know he's on really thin ice but why haven't they cut ties since his DV incident?

Why they have stuck with Smith after either incident this spring is a good question. But I think the Raiders are waiting for the facts on the case in the "domestic incident". With no arrest, only a report from police that he was cooperating and interviewed, we don't know what happened at Aldon's house in February.

But sign me up for team " this is going to end poorly" when it comes to Aldon Smith.
 

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Dude was a mountain and a decent player. Although Chris Snee might have been even stronger. I once saw him doing bench reps with 4 plates on each side when at BC.
Very well might've been. Gos once gave me a friendly slap on the back so hard I saw that flash of blue you get when someone punches you square in the temple; Snee I never met.
 

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Colts sign former Patriot Cornerback Butler to contract for 2017
Colts re-signing DB Darius Butler to a one-year, $3 million deal that could increase to $4.5M with incentives, per source. Moving to safety.
 

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Competition committee discussing shortening regular season overtime from 15 minutes to 10 minutes.
Saw that. I don't understand what purpose that serves, at all. If this is a player safety issue, I could probably get behind a no-OT rule in the NFL and just allow ties.
 

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Saw that. I don't understand what purpose that serves, at all. If this is a player safety issue, I could probably get behind a no-OT rule in the NFL and just allow ties.
Maybe to increase urgency to take chances to score a TD and win?
 

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The Raiders announced they have signed EJ Manuel. Somewhere Connor Cook is not that worried.

We can also assume that Colin Kaepernick has almost no chance of getting a job.
 

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Well, he also kinda sucks.
many backup and third-string NFL quarterbacks suck ... several suck more than Kaepernick. But when you suck AND were the center of a controversy, getting a job is that much more difficult
 

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many backup and third-string NFL quarterbacks suck ... several suck more than Kaepernick. But when you suck AND were the center of a controversy, getting a job is that much more difficult
I think the point stands though - reality is, the type of controversy matters. CK got way more shit from the base NFL fanbase for kneeling during the anthem than many athletes who commit domestic and family violence and are actually suspended do, and as a consequence teams are more reluctant to carry that baggage going forward.
 

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I think the point stands though - reality is, the type of controversy matters. CK got way more shit from the base NFL fanbase for kneeling during the anthem than many athletes who commit domestic and family violence and are actually suspended do, and as a consequence teams are more reluctant to carry that baggage going forward.
Oh, I agree. But Cam Newton or Drew Brees would still be employed ... even had they taken the same actions as Kaepernick
 

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Oh, I agree. But Cam Newton or Drew Brees would still be employed ... even had they taken the same actions as Kaepernick
I think this is a more cogent point.

Peyton Manning's sexual assault history wasn't a problem because he was good - and Brees kneeling or hitting his wife wouldn't be a problem, because he's good. But a barely viable player? Totally different situation. The knives come out when the talent isn't there.

Michael Vick is about the only good football player who I've actually seen take some real heat for a social issue. 
 

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kap is done and so is cutler

but IDK why A P is still on the market if i was green bay i wouild give him a 2y/5mil deal
 

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...which smells a bit, doesn't it?

NFL: Beat your wife all you want, as long as there isn't video or an embarrassing police report, but definitely don't take a stand on social justice.
It stinks to high heaven. I am not a huge fan of Kaep's stated political positions, but they absolutely should not cost him a job and it is a cowardly business decision by NFL owners and GMs considering that guys like Pacman Jones or Brandon Marshall, who are not hardened criminals, nor superstars, but who are a pain in the ass, can get jobs. Kaep is a distraction, but so are lots of players who are less accomplished and talented than him, especially at the ultimate position of scarcity.

I really can't figure out why either Pete Carroll / John Schneider, Elway / whoever the new guy is or Hughjack / Sachi Brown don't pull the trigger on signing him. Especially Carroll, seeing how Kaep would be able to step into Wilson's shoes without major changes to the offense and he is better than the other back up options.

By the way, the Raiders signed Manuel over Kaep because new OC Todd Downing coached Manuel when he was the QBs coach in Buffalo. I thought the Raiders were going to sign Kaep, or at least were the most likely team to bring him in, but I was wrong.
 

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I thought the big problem with Kaep is him asking for $14M a year.

If he wants a backup job in Seattle for $1M, come on down Colin!
 

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It stinks to high heaven. I am not a huge fan of Kaep's stated political positions, but they absolutely should not cost him a job and it is a cowardly business decision by NFL owners and GMs considering that guys like Pacman Jones or Brandon Marshall, who are not hardened criminals, nor superstars, but who are a pain in the ass, can get jobs. Kaep is a distraction, but so are lots of players who are less accomplished and talented than him, especially at the ultimate position of scarcity.

I really can't figure out why either Pete Carroll / John Schneider, Elway / whoever the new guy is or Hughjack / Sachi Brown don't pull the trigger on signing him. Especially Carroll, seeing how Kaep would be able to step into Wilson's shoes without major changes to the offense and he is better than the other back up options.

By the way, the Raiders signed Manuel over Kaep because new OC Todd Downing coached Manuel when he was the QBs coach in Buffalo. I thought the Raiders were going to sign Kaep, or at least were the most likely team to bring him in, but I was wrong.
Pacman Jones was suspended for 20 or so games, traded, released, and had to go to the CFL for a year before getting another shot. I'm not seeing how the owners have been easier on him than on Kaep, who so far has simply not been signed to a $14m a year contract per his request.
 

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Pacman Jones was suspended for 20 or so games, traded, released, and had to go to the CFL for a year before getting another shot. I'm not seeing how the owners have been easier on him than on Kaep, who so far has simply not been signed to a $14m a year contract per his request.
John Lynch just said Kaepernick had a contract ready to sign, but it "fell through", implying the owner in question got cold feet. I don't think it's just that his reserve price hasn't been met.
 

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It stinks to high heaven. I am not a huge fan of Kaep's stated political positions, but they absolutely should not cost him a job and it is a cowardly business decision by NFL owners and GMs considering that guys like Pacman Jones or Brandon Marshall, who are not hardened criminals, nor superstars, but who are a pain in the ass, can get jobs. Kaep is a distraction, but so are lots of players who are less accomplished and talented than him, especially at the ultimate position of scarcity.
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It's also cowardly of fans to be hush on the likes of domestic violence, drugs/steroids, etc. GM's and owners try to put a winning product and players on the field that the fans will support. Fans supported pacman jones and even guys like big ben. There is no difference between the majority of fans and majority of owners. They won't boycott successful players. Ray Rice is the only one i've seen blackballed and he wasn't that great.
 

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kap is done and so is cutler

but IDK why A P is still on the market if i was green bay i wouild give him a 2y/5mil deal
What makes you think AP would be interested in that level of money?

I'd guess when AP says "discount", he's talking $5+ a year.
 

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Pacman Jones was suspended for 20 or so games, traded, released, and had to go to the CFL for a year before getting another shot. I'm not seeing how the owners have been easier on him than on Kaep, who so far has simply not been signed to a $14m a year contract per his request.

OK, then Vontez Burfect?
 

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LA Tlmes' Sam Farmer thinks the Marshawn Lynch deal will get done in Oakland.
{He wants it, lives there, Reggie is friends with Schneider, etc.} Not good for Pats.
 

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LA Tlmes' Sam Farmer thinks the Marshawn Lynch deal will get done in Oakland.
{He wants it, lives there, Reggie is friends with Schneider, etc.} Not good for Pats.
Eh do you think he really makes them that much better than Murray did? Plus Oakland has been a net loser in free agency losing Malcolm Smith
 
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