I'm not sure how anyone guards that. Amazing throw.Yeah, this one didn't do him any favors. Gronk's 69th.
http://www.patspulpit.com/2016/10/30/13471830/watch-rob-gronkowski-sets-patriots-franchise-record-with-69th-career-touchdown
I'm not sure how anyone guards that. Amazing throw.Yeah, this one didn't do him any favors. Gronk's 69th.
http://www.patspulpit.com/2016/10/30/13471830/watch-rob-gronkowski-sets-patriots-franchise-record-with-69th-career-touchdown
Yep. And it's Gronk. Man among boys.I'm not sure how anyone guards that. Amazing throw.
Robey-Coleman enjoyed a strong start to the season and has one interception, two defensive touchdowns and four pass breakups on the year. But he surrendered long touchdowns in Week 8 against the Patriots and in Week 9 against the Seahawks. Robey-Coleman was also hit with a big pass interference call on Doug Baldwin.
Peterson's fumbling issues are largely overstated.If Peterson hasn't fixed his fumbling problems, I doubt that Belichick would want anything to do with him.
Correct on the benching for Robey-Coleman. Article from the Bills SB Nation page.
That's the Gronk one I posted.But he surrendered long touchdowns in Week 8 against the Patriots and in Week 9 against the Seahawks.
The signing team gives up their pick, otherwise there would be no reason for teams not to go wild signing these guys.Quick question re free-agency.
My understanding is that if the Pats slap a 1st round tender on Malcolm Butler they can either match another team's offer and resign Butler, or decline that offer, but get a 1st round draft choice.
The question: Does the signing team give up that pick (for example the Lions giving up its 1st round pick #21) or are the Pats awarded a compensatory pick at the end of the 1st round (for example the 33rd pick if Butler is the highest ranked FA signed)?
And if a team were to not have a pick - say because they deflated footballs - I'm assuming they couldn't attempt to sign players tendered with the first round tag?The signing team gives up their pick, otherwise there would be no reason for teams not to go wild signing these guys.
There is a 1st round tender, a second round tender and a low round tender. Since Butler was undrafted if they offered the low round tender they get nothing in return.Thanks JZ
But if the Pats did not slap a 1st roud tender on Butler they would only receive at best a 3rd round compensatory pick, and a pick not lost by the signing team?
Two years ago, Peterson's fumble issues returned (fumble rate was one every 46 touches in 2015), to the point where he spent a lot of time training in Brazilian Ju Jitsu to get over his fumbling issues last offseason: http://www.bjjee.com/articles/adrian-peterson-trains-jiu-jitsu-to-fix-fumbles/Peterson's fumbling issues are largely overstated.
Peterson has averaged a fumble ever 68 touches over his career.
LGBT has averaged a fumble every 74 touches in his career.
Kevin Faulk averaged one every 51 touches for his career.
Ezekial Elliot fumbled once every 71 touches this year.
He fumbled at a much higher rate his first 3 years (20 fumbles in 900 carries), but the assumption at this point should be that the actual distribution of the fumbles is random, not that he fixed something.
I don't think they'll be in on him - as I think someone will offer him more money than he's worth, but he'd be a big upgrade over LGBT, even in his older, much less effective than before form.
Even though he was a Pro-bowler they would get nothing in return if he signs elsewhere?There is a 1st round tender, a second round tender and a low round tender. Since Butler was undrafted if they offered the low round tender they get nothing in return.
That's correct. They have to tender him at the 1st or 2nd round level. That's how restricted free agency works.Even though he was a Pro-bowler they would get nothing in return if he signs elsewhere?
But, if I understand it right, the Tender is a contract so the options would be:Thanks JZ
But if the Pats did not slap a 1st roud tender on Butler they would only receive at best a 3rd round compensatory pick, and a pick not lost by the signing team?
Thanks.That's correct. They have to tender him at the 1st or 2nd round level. That's how restricted free agency works.
He carved up the Pats last season. One fumble in 154 career carries. Not much tread on the tires. Seems like a good fit for the Pats' multi-headed rushing attack.I'd love to see the Pats make a run at Mike Gillislee. The Bills gave him the RFA "original round" tender which means it would only cost the Pats a 5th round pick in comp. Given Buffalo's tough cap situation (41 roster spots open with only $24M in cap space) and a lot of higher priority free agents they need to retain, they probably can't afford to pay Gillislee. Watching him over the past couple of years, he fits the classic one-cut, downhill running style with far more speed than Blount. He's not an every-down back by any stretch but for a guy that you could get for $2.5-$3M per year plus the 5th round pick, he's a valuable asset and a good fit for the Pats.
I agree, I'd do that deal quickly.I'd love to see the Pats make a run at Mike Gillislee. The Bills gave him the RFA "original round" tender which means it would only cost the Pats a 5th round pick in comp. Given Buffalo's tough cap situation (41 roster spots open with only $24M in cap space) and a lot of higher priority free agents they need to retain, they probably can't afford to pay Gillislee. Watching him over the past couple of years, he fits the classic one-cut, downhill running style with far more speed than Blount. He's not an every-down back by any stretch but for a guy that you could get for $2.5-$3M per year plus the 5th round pick, he's a valuable asset and a good fit for the Pats.
Who'd notice?I'm pretty sure Western NY would implode.
If someone offers that, he gone. If his best offer is in the $6-7 range, Pats have a good chance IMOFrom Jeff Howe:
Martellus Bennett wants $9M per year, per @MikeGarafolo. Pats won't touch that with Gronk on the books for $24M over next three years.
FO did a pretty large study on fumble rate a couple years back, and found that fumble distribution is largely luck. The overriding rate is meaningful (and guys like Curtis Martin who fumbled once every 136 touches over roughly 4000 touches, during a time when RB generally fumbled much more than they do now, clearly have a skill), but year to year data is pretty much meaningless.Two years ago, Peterson's fumble issues returned (fumble rate was one every 46 touches in 2015), to the point where he spent a lot of time training in Brazilian Ju Jitsu to get over his fumbling issues last offseason: http://www.bjjee.com/articles/adrian-peterson-trains-jiu-jitsu-to-fix-fumbles/
There doesn't seem to be any language to handle that situation in the CBA - which is surprising. So it probably falls under commissioner's discretion.And if a team were to not have a pick - say because they deflated footballs - I'm assuming they couldn't attempt to sign players tendered with the first round tag?
(j) Draft Choice Compensation under this Article shall be due in that League Year’s Draft unless the Offer Sheet is received by the Prior Club later than two days before that League Year’s Draft, in which case Draft Choice Compensation shall be due in the following League Year’s Draft.
Tedy Bruschi said this morning that he sees an AP fit.There's a lot of noise around Adrian Peterson and the Patriots. Karen Guregian says he'd take a "team-friendly" contract to play in New England while Mike Garofolo says "nothing going on" with Peterson and the Patriots.
One less club bidding for Marty's services:If someone offers that, he gone. If his best offer is in the $6-7 range, Pats have a good chance IMO
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I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that BB might prefer the first-rounder should anyone offer Butler a deal
I sure hope not. Butler is a top corner. A draft pick is a bet.I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that BB might prefer the first-rounder should anyone offer Butler a deal
That is definitely a possibility.I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that BB might prefer the first-rounder should anyone offer Butler a deal
A top corner at a premium free agent price.I sure hope not. Butler is a top corner. A draft pick is a bet.
I don't agree with this. Jackson was 4th on the Redskins with targets (Garcon, Reed, Crowder) and wasn't top 50 league-wide. He's 30 years old and while he did have a good season (lots of big chunk plays, 1000 yards), I just don't see anyone paying him top dollar.DeSean Jackson is about to get huge money. I'm not sure he thinks he needs to "prove" anything to anyone.
You are subconsciously trying to clear the way for Cyrus to get the #1 corner job. Just admit it already.I should say I started thinking about a Butler deal today when watching NFL Insiders. Scheffer and Werder had two boards up -- one listing all the pending free agents; the other listing players who could be traded. Under the Patriots, it listed JG and Butler. They never got around to discussing that half of the board -- beyond Cooks -- but it made me think that Butler might be available.
If someone were to sign him to an offer sheet, getting a first-round pick for a UFA is the sort of transaction that might have some appeal at 1PP ... and I say it not wanting to see such a thing happen
I really have to work on my subtletyYou are subconsciously trying to clear the way for Cyrus to get the #1 corner job. Just admit it already.
Recent history shows BB allowing the the league to set the value on their FA's. This strikes me as something not too surprising considering 1 yr of Butler at > 4 mil is great value. Sure, there's risk involved if they get to this time next year without any progress, but it aligns with the strategy shown recently.Mike Reiss ESPN Staff Writer
One important note on news of CB Malcolm Butler's first-round restricted free-agent tender: The sides have not had recent talks on an extension.
AP should ask Randy Moss which team he should choose - Raiders or Pats?